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    Made of 7075-T6 aluminum alloy, the Super 8's flawless design makes for an incredibly strong, lightweight belay/rappel device. A super smooth ride, the Super 8 is great for handling any rope diameter. *Assorted colors.
    • Item #BLD0158

    Tech Specs

    Material
    aluminum alloy 7075-T6
    Auto Locking
    no
    Rope Diameter
    11 mm
    Strength
    22 kN
    Claimed Weight
    3 oz
    Recommended Use
    Belay/Rappel device
    Manufacturer Warranty
    1 year

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    Part of my gear list

    • Familiarity:I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

    I ordered this as its a requirement for my next climb. I used these in the past while I was in the Military and I have to say that this one weighs a fraction of what the Military fig 8 weighs. Highly impressed with the quality of this. Never thought I would need one due to having a rappel device, but hey there is no harm in adding to gear I already have. I will update this review after I use it.

    Good!

    • Familiarity:I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

    This brake is pretty basic, cheap and of high quality. Excellent for those who want a more compact and simple equipment. Good alternative for those just starting out as well.

    Really BD?

    • Familiarity:I've put it through the wringer

    So I bought one of these BD figure 8's and I am not impressed the non round shape makes you twirl around in circles on double rope repels and heated up extremely fast on a 50" free repel and shows a significant amount of wear after one use. Poor craftsmanship and design if you want my honest opinion. I have an ABC that Ive used to free repel 185' and it still looks brand new compared to the BD that I used once. For those or you who are thinking it no I am not a fat wanker I weigh 155lbs. Although I do love repelling faster than most people

    Best used for canyoneering & rapping

      This is not my first choice belaying a climber and even less for when I'm leading but this is perfect for rapping. The reason for this is the fact that there is less friction causing it to not heat up as much as an ATC.

      old school

        figure 8s are rad. that was your atc back in the day, and it still works great today. it makes fora super smooth rappel because there is less friction in the system than with an atc. there's also no variable friction like the teeth on an atc. on the flip side, that should mean less wear on your rope, though probably a nominal difference.



        bottom line: it works as a belay device, but shines as a rappel device. if you rap a lot, you might look into it. it you're just cragging or multi-pitching, it'll mostly just add weight.

        Works...

        • Familiarity:I've used it several times

        I'm not a huge fan of this device. First of all, the non-round stock adds quite a bit of friction when rapelling, too much for me, at least when double line rapelling. I weigh 165, so it's not like I'm too lightweight, but the shape of the loops and the cross section of the loops just add too much friction for me to comfortably control my rappel. I don't use a figure 8 for belay when climbing, but I can see the added friction as an advantage if you did.

        It does look good, and it's small and lightweight, which is nice, I just keep it on my harness just in case, and it's not hard to justify.

        Smaller than they look

        This seemed to only work with 3mm cord, and it barely fit Barbie!

        Smaller than they look

        First 8...

          I had always seen the figure 8 rappel devices, but I never had a chance to use one. A few months ago I decided to purchase Black Diamonds Super 8 and test it out, and now I am sold on them. This device provides such a smooth rappelling experience, and also creates an amazing amount of friction. I was a little surprised at how quickly the aluminum heated up, but that is only a minor problem. Overall, this will be my go to device in the future.

          First 8...

          Black Diamond Super 8

            I still use a Black Diamond Super 8 from time to time. It’s a good tool in your tool box to have. You can get enough friction by adding extra biners or rigging, ie vertaco. To undue a twist use your cows tail with a binner in-between both strands. I do think this is a good device for canyoning.

            Great Little 8!

              I bought one of these a few years ago to add to my collection of rappel devices for when I take people rappelling. The only complaint I have is that it gets hot pretty quick for aluminum. My really old KONG 8 hardly gets hot at all so I was a little disappointing in this 8, but over all it's a good little device.

              If you are looking for a rappel device for canyoneering, stay away from 8's! They twist the rope and make it hard for the next person to rappel. I would recommend the Wild Country VC Pro II ATC for pretty much everything!

              Great Rappel Device

                This is a great device in my opinion. I've always been happy with the performance off of these. I personally own two of these. One I keep with my climbing gear for rappels and the other I keep with my Ski Patrol pack for any rescues or self evacs from broken lifts. The Super 8 has always performed well when I need it to and you can't beat the price either for a backup device.I notice that some people are complaining that the device is too warm, too fast, not good for belaying, or kinks the rope. I personally am a bigger guy and don't particularly notice it being to fast but I also like to go fast anyways. For the other complaints, those are inherent to 8s so I don't know why they are complaining. If you didn't want it to get so warm or to be better for belaying you would have/should have gone with an actual belay device. The 8 works well for what it was designed to do.

                I always loved the self-evacuation drills. Used to rip down and freak out all the NSP folks who thought I was going to slam the ground, only to smoothly come in with my skis gently kissing the snow. Great control, good times, and my Super 8 never got too hot on some real long screamers with a doubled 8mm.

                One thing that might be really nice is to...

                One thing that might be really nice is to show how a rope goes through a figure eight belay device. just a large photo of a figure 8 and then show the line coming down from the top of the rock going through and around the figure 8 and then out the bottom and showing the tag end going to the bottom of the rock.

                Also the quick and easy way to hook into the figure 8 with a rope. show a single line starting at the top then the device bext to the line. then how you hook to your harness and the rope and the device to get them to all work together and the way it actually works and why. You might get some total beginner to give some thought to joining in. dray.

                Best Answer

                It's not a good idea for a total beginner to learn how to use a figure-8 belay device via a diagram or photo. That sort of lesson should be hands-on with an experienced climber who can double check everything.

                If anyone reading this is a novice climber and is considering purchasing a figure-8 as a first belay device, please, please, please, get someone to show you exactly how to use it. Take a lesson at a gym or via a local club. Safety is paramount.

                how do u use it

                how do u use it

                I taught myself, and i feel it can be done safely. First go through and find all information you can from the internet and the Local Library. Then I started by rappeling from trees then went onto bigger rocks. Be safe though, always have a helmet and don't go alone.