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5 5

Perfect draws

Can't really go wrong with these bad boys. I've used them for sport/trad/ice for a couple years now and absolutely love them.

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So is the "rubber straightjacket" on the...

So is the "rubber straightjacket" on the inside of the webbing because I can't see it and I've seen other draws where the rubber looks to surround the rope end of the dogbone.

5 5

Great Draws Great Price

Six B.D quick draws for under 90 bucks is a steal. These draws are super smooth. Gotta love the straight jacket feature on them. Makes life a lot easier when your left hangin.

Is a wire gate safer than a solid gate?

Is a wire gate safer than a solid gate?

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That is a question that is highly debatable. It is mostly agreed that wiregates are easier to clip, and don't exhibit gate slap. FYI, gate slap happens when you hit the back of the rope 'biner on your hand or a wall and the mass of the solid gate makes the gate itself open up, wires have less mass and it is nearly impossible to reproduce this under normal falling conditions.

However, solid and bent gates are stronger overall, and I don't really think much harder to clip under most circumstances. I have a mix of both wire and solid gate biners on my rack.

Wire gate biners are also supposed to be better for ice climbers because you can get them open easier if they freeze. I'm not an ice climber and therefore cannot independently confirm that, but it makes sense to me as an engineer.

Hope that helped, Climb On.

4 5

Sweet draws

These draws are pretty lightweight and fairly easy to clip. It is easy to tell which side of the draw clips into the rope/wall. The only problem I've found is that the webbing twists sometimes when you are trying to clip. Great draws!

I went to look at a pack of these at a...

I went to look at a pack of these at a local climbing gym, and the guy at the counter scoffed at my decision to buy a draw that didn't have wire biners on both ends. To make his point about gate flutter, he began hitting the solid gate (which you'd clip to the bolt/gear) against the palm of his hand so I could hear it opening.

I understand the concept of gate flutter, but to me it doesn't seem like it'd be an issue on the biner you clip into bolt/gear, as this biner does not gain any significant velocity in a fall and therefore the gate does not gain enough momentum to 'flutter'. For the biner clipped into the rope this makes total sense, but not for the bolt biner...

So, is gate flutter an issue (as was explained to me at the gym) on the bolt biner, and if so, does buying double wire draws increase one's safety significantly?

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There are technically two types of gate flutter. The first, as you described, is most commonly known as Shutter Gate, and indeed comes from the rope biner's spine hitting the crag in such a fashion that the moment the biner is open, the full force of the fall comes into effect....

Gate flutter seems far more unlikely to me. Gate flutter is when the movement of the rope though a carabiner creates a sympathetic harmonic vibration in the carabiner. Causing the gate to open and close slightly. I'm trying to think of a situation where a loaded draw with rope running through it would A.) see enough shock for it to come into play, or B.) have rope running though the first biner that will catch you have rope running through it before it is loaded with your fall. The scenarios just seem less likely.

That said, I agree with you that it is unlikely that the bolt biner will see enough force to open the gate. Your guy at the gym sounds like he was on an ego trip.

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I'm with Lyric. The guy in the gym was just trying to impress you with a "this isn't a joke man, you could die out there" demonstration that was completely irrelevant to the question. These are great draws.

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I found this cool page with quickdraws usage advice from PETZL.

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Great advise from PETZL

5 5


I own the BD quickpack with bent gates as well and these are a perfect finish to my sport rack,.. for now. Their weight/price ratio is very decent and the 12's are a good length for sport climbing.

5 5

super light & primo clipping

the draws are super light, they'll twist occasionally but it's not much of a problem considering the nice wire gates and light weight. The wire gate's easy to clip and secure. They work well clipping bolts and seem fine when placing gear.

4 5

Good Sport draws

wire gate is definitely the way to go for quickdraws. the dynex bones do twist around on you but its not usually a big problem. its a great starter set of draws for aspiring lead climbers

4 5

Good draws

Good and solid draws. I took a 20 foot fall with one of them and it still looks like new expect for the little scratches from the friction with the bolt.
Wiregates are the way to go for sure, light, easy to clip, and dont get knocked opened. Too bad the bolt biner is not wiregate too.
These draws are good enough for any sport routes, no need for these fancy petzl stuff...

5 5

Great first set

These draws are great for a beginner sport climber like myself. I bought two packs and love how light they are and easy to use. I bought two packs and have not had a need yet for more than twelve..... yet

What are the advantages/disadvantages of...

What are the advantages/disadvantages of utilizing wire-gate quickdraws to bent-gate quickdraws

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Wiregates are lighter and arguably easier to clip in desperate situations, though people disagree on that. Also, they can't get knocked open, so they're slightly safer. The main advantage is the weight.

How much weight can these quickdraws...

How much weight can these quickdraws handle?

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About 4900 pounds of dead weight. Dynamic situations complicate things a bit, but that's a good yardstick.

Is this the wrong photo? I don't see wire...

Is this the wrong photo? I don't see wire gates.

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Yes this picture is wrong, but will be updated soon. Though the picture shows "Quicksilver" draws, these are in-fact "QuickWire" draws.

5 5

sweet first set of draws

i've only been climbing for about four months, so this is the first set of quickdraws i've purchased. However, i have used a couple other brands so i have a little bit to compare them to. I really like them! The 'biners and dynex dogbones are both pretty lightweight. The wiregates is are awesome--clipping is almost effortless. they look pretty cool too. i definitely recommend these draws.

4 5

Nice but...

The draws work well for sport climbing but not so well for trad. The wire gates clip cleanly and are easy to operate. On a trad lead when clipping to nuts or other wired devices the dog bones are stiff and don't allow enough twist for the rope end to lay the direction you really want.