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Great boots, run small
The boots are great, but they run small and don't pack out.
I got the boots to drive big skis. They transfer a lot of power and are not too heavy for climbing.
I got 27.0, the recommended size, but the boots were quite tight, even without the footbed. I thought they would pack out, but after a couple days of skiing, they fit the same.
Returning for a larger size.
Took A Minute...But I think I Love Them
After skiing Crispi tele boots for 10 years, I took a leap of faith to BDs continually improving boot line. My first couple of days in these boots were a mess. The bellows flexed differently, they were lighter, my skiing was jacked. But...after about 7 days in these boots, I'm falling in love. My favorite part of this boot is the boa liner. I can get these suckers super dialed to my feet. I have found them to be a little on the cold side compared to what I'm used to, but the more I use them, the more I love them. They ski like a solid 4-buckle boot enabling me to charge any kind of terrain, but they're light enough that they are a great touring boot. If you're looking for a comfortable tele boot that's stiff enough to charge and light enough to tour, this is it.
Prior to these, I was on some older T2's that I thought fit me pretty well. When it came time to retire them though, I figured I would give BD a shot. I'm glad I did. After a year of skiing on these, I have no regrets. These boots fit me better than any other ski boot I have used (including alpine boots). They are a little wider than the Scarpa boots which was a pleasant change, and while out of the box my toes were a bit crunched, I took them in for a heat molding and now they are form fitting. 4 buckles is bomber and the BOA system is awesome (not sure what the durability is on it though, but no issues yet). As far as skiing on them, they have no issues driving my skis around in any conditions and the flex is quite smooth yet responsive. I agree with Bill's comment below, they are stiffer than the T2's, and as a result, I have noticed an improvement in my skiing when taking a more aggressive attack at the mountain. Ski/walk mode flip is a little cheap feeling, but it is still there after a year of abuse. A great booth though and I cant say enough positive things about them.
I am having to retire my first pair of...
I am having to retire my first pair of tele boots this year, a well used pair of garmont energy's or something of the sorts (way toooo big), and am looking into these boots. I owned a pair of the AT BD Methods and found them to be the best fitting pair of boots of my life, then switched to tele... What I'm wondering is if the push has a similar fit with heel retention, toe box and mid sole fit etc. to the Method. They're the same color so I just assume the do, but would appreciate an actual opinion before pulling the trigger.
Living in Las Vegas.
Where can I try on...
Living in Las Vegas.
Where can I try on boots to check the size before ordering?
John, Check here: http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/dealers
There's 16 places in NV to choose from...
This boot has a 102mm last width
I just bought a pair of BD Push mondo size...
I just bought a pair of BD Push mondo size 26 to replace my size 26 Garmonts. Problem is that the Push are a good centimeter shorter than the Garmont and binding fitting is a problem. Has anyone encountered this?
one solution for tight toes in the Push
I had tight toes, numb in 45 minutes in these boots, but they felt like just a little punch would make them work. Two shops were very reluctant to punch and neither would do anything with the toes, punching behind the bellows only. So off to Sears and bought a heat gun and a few reversible clamps. Too lazy to shape some wood, the only implement I had to punch the boot was a 350 ml Patron tequila bottle. In it goes, top towards the toe. Heated the toe and continually clamped the Patron bottle toward the toe. Then out with the bottle and in with my foot with as many socks as I could put on and still get into the boot as it cooled. Voila! Boots are now all day comfortable and I have made a few very comfortable short hikes with them. Best all around tele boot I've ever had. Awesome.
Would you advise going with a 26.5 that...
Would you advise going with a 26.5 that feels tight or a 27 that feels only a little roomy? My foot on a size board is 26.5 -however my foot is typically a bit wide so sometimes I go with a bigger shoe. Any advice for me?
I ordered a size 27.0 and 27.5 and...
I ordered a size 27.0 and 27.5 and am trying to decide which one to keep (as in, which one fits best). The 27.0 is tight all around and really grabs my heel/ankle which I think would be good, however, overall it's uncomfortable. The 27.5 is comfortable and very slightly roomy. I'm not sure if the boot mold is the same size and just the liner is different. Anyway, I have not heated the boots or wore the 27.0 for more than 20 minutes. Not sure whether to keep the 27.0 and expect it will get comfortable over time or go with the 27.5. Also, how does one heat-fit the boots?
Thanks in advance.
BD's shells change by the whole size, so the two you have should be the same shell. I would definitely recommend keeping the 27's, they will mold out. The place I got my touring boots didn't even carry the half sizes. Take them into a ski shop to get them molded. While your oven might go low enough to the recommended temp, it's hard to get into them without creasing. Also, ask them not to bake them too hot so you can mold several times to fix any issues.
Kevin - Thanks for the information and advice which I took and kept the size 27.0. As I did not have time to get to a boot fitter, I placed the boots in our gear-drying closet with a space heater for 20-30 mins letting the room get pretty warm. I then put the boots on with my ski socks (being careful not to have any creases) and wore them around the house for 20min. I've skied them twice so far and they feel great now! Thanks again for taking the time to answer my questions. Regards, Jeff (jhl100449764)
comfortable out of the box
i came from a t2x and immediately felt the advantages of a 4 buckle boot and the push. heel retension is not an issue at all and comfort is tops.
i kept my t2x's thinking i would use them for touring, but, they are going up for sale.
great boot, no regrets.
If i have already bought these in mondo...
If i have already bought these in mondo 28 and find them a bit tight, can I buy the POWER FIT LIGHT LINER in 28,5? Will they fit in the same boot?
can i use this boot as a alpine boot as...
can i use this boot as a alpine boot as well as a tele boat?
Sorry, but nope. The Push is a 75mm telemark specific boot. Some NTN boots are set up to be dynafit compatable, but that's the closest to a crossover there is.
Are you serious???
can the liners on these boots be molded...
can the liners on these boots be molded more than once?
Theoretically yes. I have both the Factor and Push from BD and am very satisfied with both boots. The Push uses the same thermo-mouldable liner as the Method. Most of the time just putting the boots on and either skiing a few laps or walking around for about 15 minutes will warm up the foam enough for it to mould to your feet sufficiently. If you do decide to pop them in the oven make sure you stay lower than about 150 F with the blower. Be careful with over-cooking the any boot liner - if it's too hot for too long the sole glue has a tendency to get soft and loosen itself. Also, if the liner has been used for more than a full season then it will might stink in the oven - it's OK just make sure the wife/GF is out of the house and the windows are open :) Hope this helps!
follow up question...I'm scared to heat mold my liners. seems like the plastic parts from the boa system could get messed up. any advice for me here? otherwise I love these boots.
This was my second pair of boots, I started with an old old pair of Scarpa T3 and needed something stiffer. The Push was really the boot that took my free-heelin' to the next level. These boots rock if you're into skiing the crud at the local hill or going out on an all day tour. The ski/walk mode is fantastic, easy to flip and seems pretty durable. The only negative was the insoles, i just couldn't patrol in them all day.
Overall great boots, if your on the edge and need to push it to the next level purchase these boots!
Can anyone compare these to the Black and...
Can anyone compare these to the Black and grey T1's??
I was a snowboarder, then someone taught me how to tele, then i bought these boots, and now i have a hard time deciding what to ride.
I love these boots. I enjoy the stiffness of them on the down, but love the flex they offer on the way up. the BOA lacing liner is phenomenal and i can tour for hours without wishing i was out of the boots. the only drawback to these boots is that the weigh a lot. they also overpower anything that is skinnier than 100 underfoot, in powder. but, they perform nicely when put on skinnier skis for corn, hard-pack, and fast on-piste skiing.
these also need a free pivot binding (BD 01), touring without one is torture.
Does anyone have a recommendation for a...
Does anyone have a recommendation for a tele park boot? I'm debating BD Push, Custom, and Garmont Voodoo.
Im 6' 190lbs and a strong skier. Like I said, a lot of park and skiing on K2 Kung Fus, 'Bents and RMU Diam.
T Race all the way. Generally, in the alpine skiing world, the recommendation is to go for softer boots, but telemark boots already have the forward flex built in that you need for shock absorption and avoiding shin-bang. The T Race will give you the closest to alpine boot performance in the park and pipe. There's really no contest with telemark park boots. The T Race is the absolute best.
If you'll be doing little tricks and just hitting rails or rollers, you'd probably be able to get away with the Push or T2. Really, though, if you'll be killing it in the park, you'll want the T Races, for sure.
Thanks, Jack. I'll look into them
I been teleskiing for over 25 years...
I been teleskiing for over 25 years both piste and off-piste. I currently run 177 Volkl Mantra's on HHs with Crispi XPs. The XPs are packing out and are great for touring but at the resorts they are not stiff enough. Also, my street size is 9 (190 lbs) but I usually wear a 26.5. Scarpa's at that size are too tight so I need comfort for touring yet stiff enough for steep and rough conditions. Would you recommed the Push, T1s or the Voodoo and at what size? Thanks for your help.
T1's for sure. Size up to a 27, if that's what you need. In my opinion, the T1 is the best boot for aggressive skiers who prefer backcountry, and resort skiing. Year after year, the T1 has proven to be the superior boot for hard charging tele skiers. With over 200 days on my four buckle T1's, they barely show it, and I'm sure I'll get at least that much more out of them. Enjoy!
Have a pair of these for sale at half price
The boots are great, I just picked up a very slightly used pair unfortunately a half size too small (26.5). I need 27's. Anyone want to take a pair of barely used boots with minor scuffing for $350? Save a ton of money. Or trade me your 27's for my 26.5. Contact me at yan AT pritzker DOT ws