Description
Knock out your route and show it no mercy.
- BDry waterproof membrane repels snow, rain, and melting ice and is breathable so that evaporating sweat and excess heat can pass through
- Four-way stretch nylon shell won't restrict precision movements
- Fleece lining provides a small amount of insulation to keep your digits warm
- Compression-molded EVA padding along the knuckles protects your digits when you accidentally punch the ice or break off a dinner plate
- Pre-curved, articulated grip is designed to provide a sure hold on your ice tool
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jonp256383
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- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
The gloves are comfortable and dexterous, and offer good knuckle protection for climbing. However they have a few major issues.
1. Like some other BD gloves, the fleece lining is not well sewn to the shell and will pull out in a twisted mess when removing the glove, then making it difficult to get them back on.
2. fingertips are poorly shaped
3. During their second year the shell started to soak up more and more water. This should be fine because the gloves are impermeable, thanks to a (think plastic bag) barrier. However once the outer shell gets wet and then freezes, much of the gloves' warmth and flexibility is compromised. Additionally, the impermeable barrier keeps any sweat in the glove and makes them EXTREMELY difficult to dry out on multiday ski/climbing tours. I've gotten them wet, kept them in my sleeping bag all night, and then found them wet in the morning. My $12 dollar fleece gloves proved to be warmer and more useful for the remainder of the tour.
Great ice/mixed cragging glove if youve got a warm house for a base camp. I now prefer softshells or a system glove for anything else.
Bangarang
Christopher Columbus
Member since
Great gloves, have used them for 3 seasons climbing east coast ice and they have held up incredibly well. Usually approach the climbs in a thin pair of cheap gloves, then switch over to these guys for the business. Warm down to around 0F, and have kept the digits dry even on those drippy days when the knuckles were pressed up against flowing ice water for long pitches. Very dexterous, palm and palm side fingers have great feel for the tools. Also appreciate the slightly padded knuckles, just enough to stand up to those accidental bulge punches. Very impressed and will definitely buy another pair when/if these wear out.
nice.
bananagrams
Member since
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
really like these guys.
i use 'em for following ice, or leading if it's cold (anything colder than 20 or so-- any warmer and i'll wear really thin gloves). theyre a great balance of dextrous and warm. i got mediums and initially thought they were too small but after a few uses they padded out a bit; still a little small but OK.
ive used them about 10 of 15 days this winter and i gotta say im impressed so far.
only issue is the gauntlet/wrist thing, which is a little short; i typically cinch my jacket over it and haven't had any major issues.
Great
Andrew Wike
Member since
These gloves are plenty warm for cold north face climbs. Normally this would mean that dexterity would suffer. This is not the case, as these gloves allow you to manipulate ice screws, screwgate biners and belay devices. I used these babies for ice climbing over in Chamonix and had no issues. The fit is initially very snug, I thought I had the wrong size. If you wear the gloves a few times, they break in and start to feel true to size. Took about three wearings before they finally felt like a large.
Great protexion
DEON NORTJE
Member since
Great glove - excellent protexion!!
Great glove for cold hands
burleighman
Member since
Weather it's due to poor circulation, low bodyfat, or excessive white-knuckling on my tools when leading, my hands get cold when I'm ice climbing. I got this glove to ensure warm paws when I'm leading on tough ice. These things do the job. They give great dexterity to grab a screw, or a pice of pro on a mixed route, and they keep the screaming barfies at bay (mostly).
My only complaint is construction, I've yet to see any glove maker come out with a pair of gloves that will last for 2 seasons if you're climbing more then 30 days a year. If you climb hard and often, your gloves will get shredded. It's like buying kinko's for skiing. If you ski 100+ days a year, I just don't see the point in buying a 100+ dollar pair of gloves. Ice climbing is a little different, the dexterity, warmth, and water-repellence of these gloves is awesome, I just wish I didn't already see stitches blowing out.
Good but can tweak...
cmc5380758
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This is my first season using these gloves climbing in the Daks and White Mountains in snowy/windy conditions w/ temps ranging from mid 20s to 0 F. They have very good dexterity for handling tools, give solid grip even when palms get snowy, and the padding on the knuckles is nice if u accidentally hit the ice.
Overall these are good gloves and highly respected in the climbing community. They are warm enough to use for both the approach and hikes between pitches without having to swap out gloves. That said, if the wind is really blowing, you will feel a slight draft in the glove and they are not warm enough to belay for long periods in temps below 10 F.
I have never had an issue with these gloves getting wet from the outside in but my hands do get extremely sweaty in them, which is an issue on windy days when the draft gets through. They are also very tough to dry out (definitely not in your sleeping bag overnight) and there have been quite a few occasions where my gloves spent the night next to the wood-burning stove in Harvard cabin on Mt. Washington.
This is not an issue unique to these gloves, but just wanted to point out that it is worth having a second pair in addition to belay mittens to swap into later in the day or the following day on a long climb.
That said, the two biggest issues I have with this glove are, as another reviewer mentioned, the excess space between the top of your fingertips and the end of the glove. This may be subjective, but I have pretty long fingers and it makes clipping into anything more difficult then it needs to be. Also, and this is my biggest peeve, they do not come very high up the forearm and the Velcro closure just doesnt cinch the top of the glove tight enough around the wrist allowing snow to get into the glove while climbing. I have tried putting my jacket over it but as soon as I reach above my head my forearm is exposed again for that reason alone I think I might look for an alternative glove next season. There is absolutely nothing worse then snow getting in your glove and melting on your base layers around your wrist on a cold day.
Very Disappointed!
ktreinhart1944786
Member since
I bought these gloves based on a friend's recommendation, however, his recommendation was based on an old pair. So I must warn you that they do not fit like they used to!! Ive return them and found an earlier 2009 style to use instead. But im still on the lookout for a better pair.
THE SIZING IS OFF FOR THE 2011 STYLE!! if the sizing chart says you wear a small, then you'll probably need a medium. Even so, the older styles still have a overall better fit. Im guess someone in their design department messed up pretty bad.
You can move your fingers around nicely, however, their is a lot of play in the finger tips getting in the way off everything. This is especially problematic when clipping and unclipping biners, the ends of my fingertips will get pinched in the biner. If you have long or wide fingers, then maybe this wont be as much of a problem for you.
Other than that, they are warm, dry and have good protection. But what good is that when they have you cursing at the belay because you cant work your gear very well.
Very Disappointed!
ktreinhart1944786
Member since
I bought these gloves based on a friend's recommendation, however, his recommendation was based on an old pair. So I must warn you that they do not fit like they used to!! Ive return them and found an earlier 2009 style to use instead. But im still on the lookout for a better pair.
THE SIZING IS OFF FOR THE 2011 STYLE!! if the sizing chart says you wear a small, then you'll probably need a medium. Even so, the older styles still have a overall better fit. Im guess someone in their design department messed up pretty bad.
You can move your fingers around nicely, however, their is a lot of play in the finger tips getting in the way off everything. This is especially problematic when clipping and unclipping biners, the ends of my fingertips will get pinched in the biner. If you have long or wide fingers, then maybe this wont be as much of a problem for you.
Other than that, they are warm, dry and have good protection. But what good is that when they have you cursing at the belay because you cant work your gear very well.
Crazy gloves
Helgi Egilsson
Member since
Excellent grip. Incredibly waterproof, comfortable and warm. Kept me warm when Ice climbing in -14C (7F).
Recommended
Susan Rogers
Member since
Great dexterity - can adjust my iPod shuffle wearing these guys (as well as, you know, actually climb and play with screws and such). Good warmth too. It's hard to find a balance between warmth and dexterity, and these gloves do a damned fine job at it.
Good for: climbing, biking, alpine touring...
Great Gloves
Jonathan White
Member since
On my second pair. Warm, dry gloves that can take the abuse of ice climbing. I usually climb with these and then shove them in my Altimitts while belaying if it get really cold.
great dexterity
Tim Ritchie
Member since
the title states it. the dexterity is flawless for an insulated glove. it's also very breathable and waterproof. If your hands get cold easily however (like mine do), I wouldn't recommend going out in them if the temp is below 5 F unless you have another layer on under them.
Good fit
Garret Nuzzo-Jones
Member since
These have a great comfy fit. More agile than double gloves and just as comfy with a nice fleece interior. The closure mechanism works fine, but it bugs me that the tab doesn't perfectly fit over the velcro. Someone measured it off a bit.
BTW these have a nose wipe section on the outside of the thumb. Handy!
dexterity and warmth
Illimani94
Member since
I've been climbing ice in these gloves for the past 2 seasons. Durable, reasonably warm, and enough dexterity to actually work with gear, tie knots, etc. Leather palm/fingers is solid but fairly flexible. Knuckle padding has saved my fingers more than once. In colder temps I find I have to switch into belay mitts to avoid cold hands, but using them just for lead or follow I've gotten down to about 10F with reasonably comfortable fingers. Have not really tested the waterproof membrane yet, so don't know about water resistance.
