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Best Value in Quickdraws
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
These were the first draws I bought, and they remain my favorites.
--Hook-free nose, which is invaluable when it comes time to clean a steep route
--Silky smooth clipping action, on both ends
--Bent gate on the rope end makes it that easier (at least for me) to clip the rope compared to a wire gate
--25-30% cheaper than Hoodwire or Oz draws
--Rubber gizmo on the rope end keeps the biner oriented properly and prevents cross-loading
--Heavier than draws with wire-gated biners
While they're not the lightest out there, they are the cheapest with a hook-less nose. While Oz draws are lighter, I just couldn't justify the added cost for my everyday sport climbing needs. If you're looking for a solid everyday draw that won't hang up on the bolts when you clean that 30+ degree overhang, AND won't break the bank, you're home!
quality product from Black Diamond
I use these all the time for sport climbing/ setting up a top rope of of fixed anchors and they are the bomb. Easy to clip and unclip, solid gates, and nothing cheap feeling about them.
Another quality piece
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
The narrow dogbones were a bit unnerving, since I had some older, wider, Petzls before. But they're rated to 22kN so if manage to break them I did something way wrong anyway. Aside from that, the biners are as smooth as I'd expect from Black Diamond.
Hey I was wondering what the difference...
Hey I was wondering what the difference is between a 12mm draw and an 18mm (besides length of course) but which one would you prefer to buy and why I guess is what I'm asking?
Brianna, there are a few uses with a longer sling on a quickdraw:
1. If the quickdraws are already on the wall, a longer sling will allow you to clip the rope a bit sooner.
2. When a climb is not "centered", the longer sling gives the rope more lateral maneuverability on the wall and decreases carabiner drag.
3. When a piece of protection is placed (ex: in a deep crack on trad climb) a longer sling will allow the bottom carabiner to hang freely outside of the crack.
The downside to the longer sling is that it does increase weight.
If your building a climbing gear "rack", versatility is nice and you could get a few of each size.
Thank you so much, my really good friend who usually guides me on all rock climbing is doing an 80 mile hike through the colorado mountains and i have no way to talk to him for a week. But they are on sale so I wanted to get them soon. I really appreciate you taking the time to give me such a helpful response.
On the Posiwire, the bottom 'biner is a wiregate.
Withstood A Lot
I've had these for 3 years, and they've withstood a lot of random conditions. They still look great, and obviously have worked out well with falls. The early production of this carabiner had some issues with small burrs where the gate closed on the keylock. They seemed to have solved this issue, and through all the wear and tear the dogbone has stood up nicely as well.
i'm trying to get some draws for my...
i'm trying to get some draws for my boyfriend, i was just wondering what the difference was between positron and posiwire?
Positron uses solid gate carabiners on both the rope and bolt end, whereas Posiwire uses a wiregate on the rope end and a solid gate on the bolt end. Posiwire will be lighter, and less chance of the biner breaking on a crazy whipper. If it was me, I would go with the Posiwire.
I went with positron. I dont see how the wire would be stronger. It is minimally lighter and the positron is definitely stronger. Also I hate the way that the posiwire has the hook (where the wire snaps closed) That little hook can be really annoying when cleaning a route on a repel etc.
Best QDs out there!
I have two of these bad boys and they are always my first QD on the wall. I dont know why, but I just like the feel and the strong "clip" it makes when you put it on. Very strong and easy to use, I think these are the best QDs out there personally.
These draws are great!
They're pretty much an upgraded version of the BD quicksilver draws, in that they changed the gate so that it won't snag anymore. Lightweight, versatile, awesome.
If you aren't a fan of wiregates, you can't go wrong with these.