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Disapointed with the Patrol Gloves..
I looked up on internet pretty much for the perfect gloves, and after that i have choosen the Black Diamond Patrol Glove, thinking that they was the best gloves! I waited for them a few weeks!
However, i was wrong...and i was very disapointed from the very first day i used them...they had the same problem as all ordinary and cheap gloves..
To go straight to the point: after skiing a while i wanted to take them out for diferent reasons and the liner comes out every time!. its a completely nightmare..after that its hardly imposible to put them back on again! the fingers are on their reverse and humidity or warmness make it such a bad mood situation...in the meantime i try to put them back, all my friends are already 200mts from me!!! I cant understand why the liner is not atached to the main shell or main glove. (sorry if my english vocabulary is not the best, i am trying to make myself clear).
I wait for your replay, hoping you can give me a suggestion on what to do...if there is a solution available...?¿
In the mean time i am training how to dial the phone with them on, how to go to the bathroom with them on, how to put my boots with them on...because once i put them in the morning i dont want that nightmare until i get back home!!
Bought these last season (2011) along 2 other comparably spec'd & priced gloves. Put about 30 full days on them both at resorts and back country. Although these are stiffer than both other gloves, they offer much more protection because the leather is thicker, and has the stitched double layer on the palm, and the extra knuckle protection. Riding through BC glades these became my glove of choice over the softer / plusher "resort" gloves. They seem to run small when you first get them, but mine broke in and fit well after a couple uses. I'd say they are warm enough for down to 0(F), and below that I'd be using a mitten. It's leather so reapply water protection as needed, but mine are so far still dry at the end of the day. I'd recommend this glove for those that want a warm, heavy use work glove on the mountain.
Quite warm. But poor dexterity.
I shoot lots of photos while wearing gloves, so dexterity is quite important to me. These gloves are not ideal for that sort of thing. (might recommend the BD Kingpins instead). Relatively warm though. Could be good for resort skiing. Rather than ski touring or ice climbing.
Might as well just wear mittens.
Can't go wrong with this glove. Great for snowboarding, ice climbing...you name it, it'll keep your hands warm and protected. My favorite feature about it is the amount of leather it has, this is perfect for someone(like me) who likes to abuse their gloves and use them ALL the time. Thank you Black Diamond.
great gloves. Mine feel snug compared to another XL sized Black diamond.....Maybe the leather stretches or something.
This is the second time that i buy this gloves. First time was on that magic 606' winter in Jackson Hole, i did on them double seasons since then, putting on them at least 150+ days a year.
That was on December 07. 400+ days after the condition of the gloves are awesome. No cuts, they don't get wet, etc. My big surprise was once i got the new set is how packed they where haha, but as i was telling they have been in the road to much.
I'd pay something 2 cents per day on this gloves and they're still alive. From those i bought 3 years ago i can see some minimal changes in the design which shows how Black Diamond is one of those company who trust in what they do and in the progression of there product. This is the first i go for the same/same (as they say on asia) product in my skiing years. Stoked for it. Kudos to you Black Diamond.
An ok glove.
If you are using it for anything other then ski patrolling it should be adequate. For the price I would not recommend it. In one season of ski patrolling I destroyed 2 pairs of these gloves, by the time I was done with them there was more duct tape on them then fabric. If you want a durable ski/work glove go with the Kinco ski glove, for what you pay for 1 pair of Patrol gloves you can buy 3 or 4 pairs of kinco's and a jar of Snoseal. I have used one pair of Kincos and they are still going strong (with a little help from some duct tape). If you are a weekend warrior with extra cash to throw around then go for the Patrol glove otherwise look elsewhere.
Good Working Glove
These are the ideal working glove/trail glove; however, they were not warm enough for my fingers in conditions below 5° F. There were several days of use in Banff, AB, Canada where temperatures without wind-chill were below 5° F and my fingers were cold causing me to make fists within the glove to warm my fingers.I noted the same occurrence whenever the temps fell below this number several times, otherwise the glove worked well, kept its shape and moved freely with my hands. Used the product in temps between 25° F and 34° F without over-warming. Hands did not sweat or feel uncomfortable. Without doubt this product is well made and should easily last the entire season or more with regular use.
Above the stated temperature I rate the product: 10 of 10
Below the stated temperature I rate the product: 5.5 of 10
Awesome, but not for Seattle?
I tried these out, but I think they are simply too warm for resort skiing in Seattle. Maybe on a particularly cold day or if you are not wearing very much on your core. I like the construction alot, but returning. I imagine they would be awesome for colder areas.
Black Diamond Patrol Glove
My favorite type of ski glove, an under the cuff, full leather glove. My previous glove, a 12 year old pair of Marmot Patrol, served its purpose very well.
This glove however failed on two fronts for me. The first was they were not very warm even at a reasonable 20 degrees F.
The second was the fit was not very good for my hand. This is obviously a very personal portion, but the glove has a really square fit. This meant that the medium was too short in the middle and the large too long in the outer fingers.
Then I saw a pair of BD gloves after 100 days of skiing that was shredded in the fingers which was the nail in the coffin.
Black DIamond Patrol
This is my secind pair and there will certainly be a third. After 20 years of lift riding, backcounty, and alpine climbing this is the best all around pair of gloves I have even owned. They are warm, rugged, and allow for great dexterity.
You can manipulate all your gear and clothing wearing these bad boys, warm too.
best winter paragliding glove
I forgot to mention, dexterity in these are great, I use them for winter paragliding. With all the lines you are pulling when launching your wing and so forth, you need as much precision as possible, these deliver.
Burly and then some
These are so burly-i use them as belay gloves for ice climbing when its not real cold, for boarding, whatever. you will have a hard time wearing the gloves out. One thing i like is that the leather caps the thumb-an area ive consistently worn out on mountain hardwear and marmot gloves. They arent the warmest-but they arent meant for horrendous and very cold condtions. Love them.
Warm and comfy
I like these things a lot. they have kept my weird-circulation hands warm and dry, and have a sort enough cuff to not be annoying while skiing, but long enough to keep the snow out.
Cuff too short
I have skiied several days with these and feel like the cuff is too short to keep snow out. I bought them to be my "work" gloves for touring and camping etc, but I feel like they are a bit bulky for these applications, and not really warm enough to work well as a dedicated ski glove. They're burly for sure, but not as good as the Marmot Exums.
Bulky and fairly cold
My initial impressions after a few days ice climbing with them are not very favorable. Let's start with the good stuff: they seem very durable. The leather is high quality and the seams are well placed. Obviously only the test of time will tell, but I don't anticipate these gloves falling apart.
Downsides: they're VERY bulky. I cannot envision myself ever leading with them, as I can barely operate a carabiner. They're quite thick, so I got pumped gripping my tools and belaying with them. And, they're not too warm. My fingers were getting cold on a warm day (25 degrees) after standing around for an hour.
I have also worn the Black Diamond Renegades, which I could lead ice in: they were thinner and warmer than these. That said, they're surely less durable (no leather).
Nice, not perfect
Unfortunately I lost one of these at the bar so I won't get to see them to their natural end, but after most of a season of constant use, including a lot of bootpacking with the skis over my shoulder, these showed absolutely zero signs of wear. The palms broke in visibly, but they looked completely new. They are warm enough for me down to about zero, but I think I tolerate a little colder temps than most as long as I'm active. They are plenty dexterous, but my only complaints are the cuff and breathability. The cuff doesn't quite seem to be an under-the-jacket cuff, and definitely couldn't fit over my freeride jacket steezyness. Also, making the whole cuff leather kept it too stiff to really cinch, so why bother putting the shock cord and toggle on there at all? I wish it were just a trim velcro cuff or something a little lower profile. Also, even on a short bootpack on a cold day I would sweat them out, and that would be it, they'd be damp inside till the next day. Still, completely waterproof, warm enough, dexterous, and incredibly bomber construction make for a solid glove. They do take a little break-in as the leather forms to your grip and the lining packs out a little.
Well made but runs a bit small
The XL is really not quite there... compared to other gloves in that size. Maybe BD needs to make a XXL, but they are just a bit too short in the fingers for me (longest index finder 3 3/4" from base). Other than that its a good working glove.