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- Part of Black Diamond's Freeride Power Series, this boot is designed for aggressive in-bounds performance with the ability to access the backcountry
- Triax Pro frame tech features a stiff forward flex for smooth fore/aft power transfer and impressive lateral stiffness
- 102-Millimeter-last designed to maximize comfort and performance in the toe box while providing plenty of snugness in the heel
- Stiff Power Fit liner with Strobel base is thermoformable and also includes a Boa closure system for a precise fit and on-the-go adjustments
- Rubber outsole provides grip in cold conditions for touring versatility
- Includes Black Diamond’s Alpine Sole Blocks for use with alpine DIN-compatible binding systems (AT Sole Blocks sold separately)
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- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I also really wanted to like these. The fit was great, but there seems to be too much going on. The Boa system, 4 buckles and a powerstrap you think you'd be locked down real nice. There is too much going on. You tighten one system down a then have to adjust the rest or they don't fit right. I've skied in these for 150+ resort days and been on 20+ tours. Same issues every time. The ski/walk switch is just poorly placed. It almost always engages to walk mode in any snow ankle deep or more. It's not a huge upset but noticeable to say the least. I will admit that I am rough on my stuff but I really expected more from BD. The "frame" if you will is a soft plastic easily gouges on rocks, tree bits, ski edges. Switching back to the Salomon Ghost Max 130.
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
Absolutely amazing boot. As for AT use I do not have experience, I bought these boots in anticipation of getting a pari of dukes/other burley AT binding for my skies but it hasn't happened yet... But I can attest to their use with DIN bindings. They are absolutely solid, and I rip them at least 3-6 days a week during the winters an well as riding them a bit on watered grass in the summer. I changed from a Nordica Doberman Pro race boot over to the Factor 130s and was beyond impressed with their performance on groomed trails. I would suggest this to anybody who is looking for something to rip anything from groomers to powder and anything else you can find within lift access. They hold up under any condition (after 3 years) and are still running strong. I can hopefully attest to their AT capabilities after this year...
Not a good choice for wide feet
I really wanted to love these boots. They ski great; the walk mode is solid; the shells don't get stiff overnight on 2 day climbs... But they are not meant for my feet. I wore these three days, once at a resort, once to climb mt adams and once to climb mt hood. On each day they removed a significant amount of skin from the inside of my ankles and caused so much outer toe pain that I limped for a day after each use. I even tried other liners to no avail. Alas, I'm going to return them and try something from dynafit...
A word of caution: If you have caveman like wide feet and thick calf muscles (I'm 5'10" 185lbs, soccer player type) these are more of a meat grinder than a ski boot.
Side note, being forced to choose a rating. 4 stars as these are good boots that I anatomically disagree with.
not super durable, but good overall.
I agree with previous reviews that these arent the most durable boots. Luckily, I have had only minor issues with mine and BD Customer Service quickly resolved the issue.
I skied these boots for a season and a half (2010/2011 model).
While skiing relatively fast in mellow terrain the front toepiece of the boot completely ripped out and sent me into a small tree. I'm lucky I didn't get killed.
The picture really says it all.....
husband loves these
My husband is really happy with these. I wish my Swifts had an extra buckle to keep my heel down like these do.
How big of a difference is this boots...
How big of a difference is this boots stiffness gonna effect me from the Factor 110? Like if I get the 110 will I be wishing for more control or will the 130 just be a bit tighter on my foot?
Yes it will affect you. If you like to charge, the 130 is awesome. This is the best boot I've ever had.
12th day of use and "kaput" (austrian technician's quote upon seeing my boot). There goes that vacation.
Consider another boot.
Love These Boots!
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I just put my 22nd trip in on these boots, so they are gettin close to being broken in. I haven't had a single problem. I love the boa system! For being 130's , they are even pretty dang comfortable.
I do a ton of sidecountry hiking up bootpacks and along ridges. Put these bad chickens in hike mode, loosen up your buckles and you can move pretty dang quick! Heck, if you're in hike mode, these things arent even too bad to drive in!
Long story short, I love these boots! Super good product from a great company. Thanks Black Diamond!!!!
Great boot - shit AT sole blocks
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've used it several times
The boot itself is great - especially if foamfitted with Strolz inner boot - but the AT-sole blocks are TERRIBLE - the heel has such a thin rubber strip that it was worn after only a 1-day tour to Piz Buin - I wrote to Black Diamond for a replacement sole block - and DISSAPPOINTINGLY they never replied!
Great Boots questionable design
Theese boots skied great over a 120+ day season for me this year. although with this low snow year in the east I only toured once. The boots were responsive stiff and I love the boa. Now the the bad: the pin that holds the base of the ski walk mode in place blew out on both of the boots once. Is this a dealbreaker? no this pin is cheap and if you have your feet under you will you fall? probably not still frustrating though.
I'm a 6' 190lbs, 280mm boots - medium to aggressive skiier. I change between the Salomon Shogun 183 and Volkl Kendo 177. I've had a total of 9 days with the factor's in various terrain, trees, deep snow (light and heavy), hardpack and bumps. I use these as my only boot. They are abnormally beat up after what I would call a few days of "light" skiing. The plastic seems cheap and will easily damage. The liner keeps getting pinched by the shell, that plus the boa system makes it a pain in the rear to take on and off. The ski/walk mode busted on both boots. My feet are around medium width, with strong calves and these boots are excruciatingly uncomfortable, so much so that I frequently had to take two hour long breaks to remove the boots. They've been heat molded which did nothing for the fit. My feet still hurt and it's a week later. I was really hoping these boots would do it all but looks more and more like I'll need a two-boot quiver. I want to give these until the end of the season (along with a proper backcountry trek) until I give my final verdict. But so far I'm somewhat disappointed.
Great comfort, terrible durability
I have about 30 days on these boots. At Crystal WA I dropped off a small 10ft cliff into powder and found myself bucking forwards on one side. I looked down after I stopped and sure enough, blown ski walk mode. I was lucky enough that the shop had spare ski/walks and I changed one out. They did not have a second. 3 days later at Silverton, the other broke. I would have bought two spare sets but nobody had them and the problems were supposed to be resolved in the 2nd Gen boot.
The prior 30 days were fantastic. They are a heavy boot with just the right amount of flex lending to a durable touring/slackcountry setup. The comfort is perfect for me. Unfortunately now I cant ski during the best snow week out East due to poor durability. A+ for the comfort + aesthetics and F for durability.
Good boot, not the most durable though.
I have the 10-11 model of the BD Factor and have skied 23 days in them. After day 20 the ski/walk mechanism went out on me even though I only weigh 180 lbs. and don't drop off huge cliffs or hit terrain park jumps. When I say, "went out on me" I mean the pin that keeps the ski/walk mode intact either became loose and fell out or broke and fell out on the slope I was on. Either way, this malfunction resulted in my missing day 6 of my 6 of 8 days in Jackson Hole, Wy. during my vacation. I had it fixed at my local ski shop when I got home and am still using the boot without problem. As angry as I was over this issue I am still reluctant to do anything but keep using this boot because it is the stiffest and lightest boot I have ever used and is perfect for driving my K2 Darksides. So, great boot in terms of weight and stiffness but not real durable and a pain to adjust at times.
Prior BD Model
I experienced a similar situation to ror4238300 below. My factor 130 boots in the second season would not respond to my turnings and the shell would give way (flex) before the turn was engaged.
I mentioned the problem to BD and received no help or confirmation they had a design flaw on the older boots. I was informed from BD that comparing the boots 130 flex to another company say Nordica and the Dobermann Pro 130 was not compare marbles to marbles and BD boot would never be as stiff as the Dobermann. BD informed me their company flex rating is only in comparison to other BD boots.
A recommendation to a cold toe box and flexure is removing the BD liner and using a "Intuition Liner".
good boots but be careful
i love these boots. they are the best boots i have ever owned to ride in. very responsive and burly. this being said they aren't very well made. my first pair cracked near the toe box. a lot. maybe that was just a bad pair i dunno. the plastic does seem cheap. i wouldnt recommend them as an everything boot. just touring maybe. use everyday will trash these.
My first powder day this year (in Poland).
Love my Factor 130 boots!
I bought a pair of these boots in the UK...
I bought a pair of these boots in the UK 2 years ago. Last week, the ski/walk switch on the back of one of the boots failed (after probably 10 weeks of mainly alpine off-piste skiing and some touring) the brass pin that locks the shell into the 'hard' ski setting was badly worn and when i power up the boots in a turn, the shell gives way. This is a real design problem- I am told that this has happened to several buyers of ths boot. Does anyone have advice on how to get this fixed by BD? Shame, as the boots are great, although this is a bit of a deal-killer...
I've only experienced great customer support from BD. Call em up and ask!
this will happen, especially with the older models (anytihng older than this year's newly designed "Factor 130"). i would suggest going to a hardware store and getting a screw and nut that fits as a backup pin. i've blown both my ski/walk modes numerous times and a hardware store screw and nut does the job just fine. your other option is to call BD and work on a refund or replacement - but, it will happen again. i totally agree. these are the best bits ive ever skied, but the blown out ski/walk mode is a deal-breaker.
Does anyone know what the bootsole length...
Does anyone know what the bootsole length is for the 25.5?
I have a wide foot, I tried the Black...
I have a wide foot, I tried the Black Diamond Quadrants (29.5) it fits my feet quite well, I wonder hows the fit of the Factor 130 compared to the Quadrants? That info would really help me decide which one to get
The factor is wider. Both come with moldable thermo liners, so going through the process of getting them heated up and fitted is going to give you the best result. The factor is going to be stiffer and have more downhill performance, and the quadrants will be lighter and have more uphill performance.
Both are great boots. Enjoy.
but do be very aware that the quadrants have a touring specific sole! you don't wanna ware the quadrants with your "normal" alpine bindings! you will be putting your self at risk for injury because the binding won't give you consistent release (and sometimes none) with those soles.
I am going to have to disagree with the previous answer on which boot is wider. The Quadrant definitely has a much higher volume forefoot. Not only are both boots designed for different purposes but are designed around different lasts as well.
If your foot fits well in the quadrant it will likely not fit well in the factor. I have the opposite problem with a low volume forefoot and the factors fit well but the quadrants have way too much room.
Hope this helps. Try them both on and decide for yourself as only you will be able to decide if it fits or not.