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Black Diamond Eldorado Tent: 2-Person 4-Season

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    A bomber two-person, single-wall offering from the masters at Black Diamond.

    Super light, super strong and built with waterproof breathable Todd-Tex fabric, Black Diamond Eldorado is a two-person, single-wall shelter designed for mountaineers and climbers. Able to be pitched on ledges that are no larger than your couch, this is the ideal tent to have at altitude. Its weight is relatively light given its burly construction, yet it rolls up small enough to fit into the side pocket of many internal-frame packs.
    • Freestanding single-wall design saves weight by eliminating the need for separated canopy and fly; ideal for four-season climbing and mountaineering applications
    • Waterproof breathable Todd-Tex fabric sheds wet weather and breathes exceptionally well to help reduce condensation
    • Two zippered vents at the peak, a hooded vent over the door, and one at the bottom help you position the tent to minimize condensation buildup
    • Taped seams prevent dripping water or morning dew from sneaking in through the fabric joints
    • Two poles crisscross inside the single-wall canopy, eliminating the need to thread sleeves and providing superior strength against the elements
    • Optional vestibule provides a covered entry and room for everyone's gear (vestibule sold separately)
    • Multiple stakeout loops provide secure anchoring in windy locations
    • Four internal mesh pockets help keep your kit organized at night
    • Optional footprint sold separately
    • Tent designed to be a more spacious version of Black Diamond's I-Tent (five inches longer and three inches wider)
    • Item #BLD0034

    Tech Specs

    Material
    [body] ToddTex, [floor] ToddTex
    Capacity
    2-person
    Season
    4-season
    Wall Type
    single-wall
    Freestanding
    yes
    Poles
    aluminum
    Number of Poles
    2
    Pole Attachment
    internal
    Number of Doors
    1
    Ventilation
    pop-out vents in fly, mesh door, bottom vents
    Seams
    fully taped
    Gear Loft
    yes, sold separately
    Interior Height
    43 in
    Floor Dimensions
    87 x 51 in
    Floor Space
    30.8 sq ft
    Packed Size
    7 x 19 in
    Packed Weight
    5 lb 1 oz
    Trail Weight
    4 lb 8 oz
    Recommended Use
    basecamp, backpacking, camping
    Manufacturer Warranty
    1 year

    Tech Specs

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    Stellar.

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    Used this tent for years, never regretted it. I've been through rain, snow, even hail and it's kept me dry through it all, and has never collapsed on me. The internal structure is a bit frustrating at times when trying to put it up in extreme circumstances, but no complaints other than that.

    Bomb proof shelter

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    I've owned this tent for several years and love certain aspects of it. It's great for a lightweight option for mountaineering and does well in four seasons. I seam sealed mine and never had any issues with water accumulating from rain. Condensation has been minimal, as long as you set it up facing into the wind and leave the door slightly cracked to allow air to flow.



    I've found that it insulates better than double walled tents and that properly staked and guy lined out it will stand up to some hellacious winds without flinching. The bathtub floor is very durable and also water sealed.



    The only real negative I have is that the internal pole setup can be difficult and potentially dangerous to the tent. So follow the manufacturers recommendation and definitely practice setting this tent up a few times before taking it out to the backcountry. Internal pole set up for this tent is not for everyone, so that has to be considered if you're interested in purchasing it.

    Love Hate relationship with this tent...

      This is a great tent as far as the todtex materials its made out of.. very comfortable and very light.. with that said.. the really tiny metal zippers make it difficult to open with gloves on and this tent is a real pain in the a#@ setting up.. the inside pole design really sucks... tried setting this tent up at 12,000 ft with 60mph winds.. the pole design had the tent flapping wildly in the wind, which is no surprise with the conditions, but when the pole finally popped out of the snap in the corner while i was setting it up, it shot right through the floor and tore a nice little hole.. huge dissapointment.. prob would not have a problem like this with an external pole setup.. the snaps that hold the poles in place on the inside are cheap to say the least and shattered while closing at temps of -20F.. I guess you can say that i might of pushed the limits of this tent but this gear def. failed me when i needed it the most..

      Biblers bigger brother

        This is the SAME tent as the Bibler I just a little longer, one of the top choices for cold weather. There's no fly to hassle with and the strength weight ratio is awesome. I'm just not a fan of bright tent colors, I prefer more covert ones for my nocturnal proclivities.

        Great tent, just learn to use it correctly!

          A few months ago a friend and I ventured into the White Mountains of New Hampshire for a multi-day backpacking and snowshoeing trip. I consider myself an experienced backpacker, but most of my experience comes from trekking in the spring, summer, and fall. So I decided to brush up on winter survival skills before the trip. I read a few guidebooks and spoke with experienced winter adventurers at my school’s mountaineering club. The more I learned about the harsh winds and subzero temperatures of the White Mountains, the more I became convinced: I needed a new tent. Enter the Eldorado—a well-known and well-tested mountaineering tent from the Black Diamond Equipment, Ltd. Overall, I liked the tent. It was light, strong, and simple to setup. Despite my praises I have one caveat: the tent walls collect a lot of condensation at sub-zero temperatures. I’ll discuss this problem in more detail below.

          The Eldorado uses no rainfly because of its single-wall design. Its walls are made from a windproof and waterproof material, called ToddTex. ToddTex weighs only slightly more than traditional tent material, so removing the rainfly leaves the tent several pounds lighter than rival mountaineering tents. This design offers other benefits as well. Setup time is minimal with no rainfly. I set it up in two minutes on my first try (not counting the time to stake and guy out the tent). The instruction manual says setup should take less than two minutes—with some practice. Black Diamond also constructed ToddTex to breath like the popular Gore-Tex material: the tent walls absorb and transport water vapor to the outside, minimizing condensation buildup on the inside.

          The ToddTex material unfortunately failed to live up to its reputation during our trip. Nightly temperatures fell between ten and fifteen degrees below zero, and in this range the tent’s inside walls collected water vapor from our breath. The vapor froze, and throughout the night it fell like snowflakes onto our sleeping bags. We awoke in the morning to find the outside of our sleeping bags wet to the touch. Wet sleeping bags do not work well.

          Given the Eldorado’s stellar reputation, recommendations, and otherwise impressive design, I suspected (and hoped) that someone had already solved the condensation problem. When I arrived home I put Google to work. Several online backpacking forums explained that no four-season tent, including the Eldorado, will effectively transport moisture when the temperature falls far below zero. Proper ventilation, however, will evacuate water vapor and prevent buildup inside the tent. The tent must face the wind, with the door slightly unzipped, allowing a light breeze to carry moisture out before it freezes.

          This solution seemed strange to me, however, because I understood the tent was meant for four season use; so why wouldn’t the ToddTex material function in the cold of winter? Also, my friend and I read the instruction manual beforehand and thought we had set up the tent to achieve proper ventilation. It’s possible we missed something, of course. I haven’t had a chance to experiment with proper ventilation in subzero temperatures since this trip. If anyone has any experiences with this problem, or any other ideas or solutions, please let me know.

          Mr. Perkins, your comment didn't help me whatsoever!! Instead of being negative toward the reviewer, why don't you give us some of your expertise, since you are rated as a Gear Guru. Your information, if you choose to give any that is constructive, can help all of us out with some ideas on properly setting up a tent in the winter time. Thank you.

          Water Vapor is made when molecules of air drop below the dew point temps. This happens everywhere, and without some sort of mechanical device, it will happen if you are in a house, your car, or in a tent. The reason you do not see it in the summer, is that the temps stay high so that does not happen inside your tent, but if you go outside early in the morning and touch anything, it is covered in water.. same principle inside your 4 season tent, in below freezing temps. Most 4 seasons I have dealt with, have a fly and many possible vents. depending on the temps and wind outside, I will need to play with the vents till I get the good mix of temp and moisture. Having never used this tent, I can only look at pics, but I can see two obvious roof vents, those should obviously be open, and quite possibly, you will need to have another source of air movement to exchange the air inside your tents. So if you have no other way, then the front door will need to be cracked

          If it is a minor problem, you can do what I normally do, to give me a small edge. I put in a gear loft and some sort of fabric, it will absorb most of condensation from your breath overnight

          I have used this tent and have been an owner for a number of years. First off set uo tent with door into the wind! not blocking the wind. always open vents on top fully unless weathering epic storm condensation be damned. Next open front door at bottom enough to allow airflow. I never expect a tent to warm me only to know down breeze and to keep precip off. Keeping warm is the job of clothing and sleeping bags. The only times I have had issues with frost/condensation was camping by river of fast moving water in sub freezing temps and when my daughter woke up to releave herself and upon returning sealed tent drum tight with me sound asleep. hope this helps.

          I should add that I have the add on vestibule and found it to be a great addition if weight is not at a premium. The note worthy observation was that the vestibule is made of ripstop nylon not the Tod ex that the tent is made of. Condensation was noticeable on the vestibule while the tent remained nearly dry. The critical factor in setting up a winter base was air flow. If using the vestibule for cooking and blocking the wind is the objective when you are finished cooking dig out under the front of the vestibule to allow airflow. keep the door open to some degree on the main tent with top vents open. Attempt to create a venturi/draft effect. Cold air in at bottom warm moist out the top. I admit I have purchased a tent since in attempt to cut weight. I had noticeable condensation problems with its silicone nylon fabric but admittingly we were under siege by mosquitoes and kept tent fairly sealed. If this tent was sub 3 lbs I would not look elsewhere period. Still this tent is tops on my list for 4 season two man tents. Just force team mate to carry his/her share of weight!

          Still amazing after all these years!

            I bought the Bibler Eldorado in 2000, the two door version with vestibule. It has been incredibly reliable companion for years in all four seasons. I'm not sure that this will be the last tent you ever buy, but I've enjoyed a decade of use and it's still the best tent I've ever owned.

            BD Eldorado Tent

              This is the last 2 person 4-season tent you will ever buy. Super light, very tough. Holds up to really strong wind and snowfall. You set it up from inside, so when setting up during a storm you are protected. The yellow fabric will brighten your mood even during the darkest storm bound days.

              Difficult Setup

                What a pain in the butt to set up. The 'twist ties' broke as I was attempting to set it up. If it is cold it's extremely difficult to even grab hold of the pole to get the twist ties on them.
                Wouldn't recomend this tent to anyone.

                Bomber four-season tent

                  I've had my Eldorado for years and I love it. You can't beat this tent for simplicity and ease of set-up, strength-to-weight ratio, and versatility. The small footprint give you lots of options, and I appreciate that you can set the tent up from the inside -- a great feature in foul weather. There's a good amount of space for two plus essential gear... If you don't quite need a tent this sturdy and weatherproof, check out Black Diamond's Firstlight -- the same tent design, but with lighter (and less waterproof) fabric and fewer ventilation options. The Firstlight is cheaper, too... If you're looking for a tent you can use year-round and in the harshest conditions, though, you can't go wrong with the Eldorado... Well worth the price!

                  A very good tent

                    I really like this tent. I bought it in 2005 and use it both for backpacking and mountaineering. Summer and winter.

                    The fabric, ToddTex, performs really well in all conditions I've used it in. I've used it in temps from about +20 to -20 degree C. The inside stays nice and dry at all time in rain and snow. Just be sure to vent well at least when cooking inside in the winter. Else the inside might freeze and block the membrane. I've heard the fabric has problems in very humid environments but have'nt tried that.

                    Setup is super easy and fast, just takes a little bit of practice. The footprint is small, but the inside is quite roomy imo, steep walls and quite good headroom. Large enough place for 2 (185 cm, with essential gear) in the winter with room to spare for cooking. I've even spent a few nights with 3 in this, but then one of us was just 2-3 months old :) Obviously it isnt too roomy in the latter two conditions but it did the job very well.

                    It performs well in winds as far as i've experienced, but I have'nt tested it in wind speeds above 70 km/h. Just be sure to use the guy-lines and keep in mind the wind direction. The fabric seems really solid but its a bit stiff and a bit difficult to pack down small.

                    Is this tent ok for a Denali summit...

                    Is this tent ok for a Denali summit attempt?

                    Yes it would but buy the new North Face Assault 2 2015 model tent instead. It is a competitor and is much better and only $448 and comes with a vestible. The BD Eldorado is getting old and needs a major update, ie the material and vents are 15 year old tech and there are many better single skin tuff alpine tents now. The high price is also a killer for $700 you dont even get a vestible, the new 2015 NF Assault 2 comes with a vestible and has better vents, is made of lighter but as strong material and is only $448 here at Backcountry.com so its a no brainer.

                    Yes it would but buy the new North Face Assault 2 2015 model tent instead. It is a competitor and is much better and only $448 and comes with a vestible. The BD Eldorado is getting old and needs a major update, ie the material and vents are 15 year old tech and there are many better single skin tuff alpine tents now. The high price is also a killer for $700 you dont even get a vestible, the new 2015 NF Assault 2 comes with a vestible and has better vents, is made of lighter but as strong material and is only $448 here at Backcountry.com so its a no brainer.

                    How would this do in the Cascades? I'm...

                    How would this do in the Cascades? I'm looking to purchase my first 4 season tent. I'm a little worried about getting a single wall, even though I'll only be using it on snow climbs, due to the unpredictable rain we tend to get here.

                    Best Answer

                    That's kind of a tough one. Universes colliding kind of. I've been so royally screwed by torrential rains in the Cascades more than once because my tents leaked like a sieve, even though they shouldn't have... they just took more than they could handle. Same with the Olympics. You probably know the drill. I want a double-wall for mixed conditions like that. Single-wall tents always need more maintenance and sealing, so forget that. The biggest question is the extra weight to me...like double + sometimes. For about the same price range, why not look at the MHW Trango2, or maybe either the TNF Mountain25 or the VE25? Classic mountaineering tents that go to insane places with weird weather and review almost perfectly? Also, if you're not in too many situations where big snow loads and insane winds are part of most days, a solid, nylon 3-season without much mesh and good ventilation might do the trick and get the weight back down. Hope this helps.

                    Phil,



                    Thanks for the info, man! That helps a ton! I am looking at those models in the double walled category. I think I'll have to suck it up and carry the extra weight. I'd rather do that than be soaked. I may consider getting a light single wall solely for winter climbing while using the double for spring/fall. My 3 season big Agnes does well in the summer, just don't trust it enough for getting caught in a big PNW storm.

                    No problem at all, Brandon. If you have real wintery mixed shoulder season conditions, the double-wall 4-season might be the best way to go, but if it's too warm, you'll incinerate. How much money do you want to spend? You gotta check this out...you'll know exactly what you want for winter climbing: http://www.hilleberg.com/home/products/all-tents.php

                    Good morning! When I looked at your site...

                    Good morning!

                    When I looked at your site three days ago, this Bibler/BD tent was 20% off. Have I missed the opportunity? Did I mis read the ad?

                    I wonder if it will go on sale again ...

                    Hi David,

                    Backcountry.com has several semi-annual sales, holiday sales, and "we just want to hook you up" sales throughout the year. With that said, these sales can come and go within a day's notice so stay tuned to the Backcountry.com notices and be ready to grab that item when it goes on sale. You can also call or LiveChat with a customer service gearhead who may be able to help explain the process further.



                    At the time of this answer, the tent is on sale for 20% off!

                    Want to get the optional vestibu for this...

                    Want to get the optional vestibu for this tent. Is it being sold?

                    So this is pretty much the same as the...

                    So this is pretty much the same as the I-Tent but a bit longer, and much like the First light but more durable/weatherproof and a but heavier. Am I reading this right? longevity and durability are important to me.I like to camp mostly in winter, with some mountaineering mixed in when I can. Sound like EL-D is the way to go. Thoughts? Corrections?

                    So, I've got a bit of a predicament. I...

                    So, I've got a bit of a predicament.

                    I will be camping in an extremely humid area, but also extremely cold in winter. An island off the Paraná river in Argentina.

                    I'm looking at this tent and I read it doesn't do well in humid environments?

                    Thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.

                    Thanks

                    Temperatures will range in the 30s, 20s and single digits (fahrenheit), below zero not likely.

                    I will be carrying the tent in a kayak, it cannot be very heavy.

                    Thanks for the suggestion. If the primary wall is exposed to the cold however, I'm gonna have a problem.

                    Yeah,, scratch that Eureka. This is a tough one,, I'm trying to picture what I would want to take in the same situation. Two other possibilities would be the GoLite Shangri-La 2 or 3, each with their nest. I suppose you are trying to keep it under 6lbs?

                    Big Agnes String Ridge 2
                    Trail weight: 5lbs
                    4-season
                    http://www.bigagnes.com/Products/Detail/Tent/StringRidge2

                    In my opinion, here is a great 4-season tent for under 6lbs. No mesh on the tent body, which will hold in more warmth in winter. It's built solid so if you see any high winds or winter storms you be protected. In hot/humid summer days, you can use the mesh part of the doors, or keep them slightly open to minimize condensation.

                    Well, I'm slowly coming to grips with the fact that the tent itself is not meant to keep me warm, but mainly protected from the wind and the rain... especially if I'm trying to keep it light. So, I will choose the best double-wall tent I can find.

                    Thanks again

                    How does this tent due in terms of...

                    How does this tent due in terms of condensation?

                    Hi, im a very frequent traveller. I travel...

                    Hi,

                    im a very frequent traveller. I travel for long periods of up to an beyond a year at a time. Im planning on going back to Nepal this season and want to climb Island Peak. Will this ten be suitable?

                    check out some of my photography http://www.andrewmclagan.com

                    Best Answer

                    Generally, most things can be shipped internationally, but check with the live chat feature to be sure. As for the tent, it'll do just fine on Island Peak. Might be a little small if you'll be sharing with another person. Further consideration is that a single wall tent of this nature does not do well in warmer climates or more humid/damp/moist climates. If you want a single all around tent, I'd check out the Ahwahnee Tent, by Black Diamond as well. Of course, it will not be as strong for use in the mountains, but with two doors, it'll breath/vent better and you'll have less of a problem with condensation.

                    What is the best choice this or MSR Fury...

                    What is the best choice this or MSR Fury tent for winter time?

                    Best Answer

                    Well, the MSR gives you about 15 sq feet more room, including the vestibule, so if you're with two people, and you want to keep more of your stuff out of the wind, or want to cook in your vestibule, the Fury is the better tent. The fury also has 12 guy out points, and is as stable as they come. If you're going to be in some gnarly mountain storms, the Fury is by far the better choice, and it's cheaper, but if weight is an issue, or you're by yourself, this is the better choice. For overall value, go with the fury, as a two man mountaineering tent that's just over six pounds is still incredible, you get more space, a vestibule, and a bigger peak hight. Do keep in mind that the footprint of the Fury is almost twice as big as the Eldorado, as the BD is designed with climbers in mind.

                    I was just wondering if the Elderado tent...

                    I was just wondering if the Elderado tent needs to be seam sealed once I receive the tent? Can anyone help me out? Much Thanks!

                    Hi, I am looking for a 4-season-tent. I...

                    Hi, I am looking for a 4-season-tent. I am thinking about ElDorado VS fritzroy. What are the mainly differences in terms of breathbility, materials...
                    What is the best choice? Could anyone helps me? Thanks

                    Just received Bibler Eldorado tent and I...

                    Just received Bibler Eldorado tent and I notice a strange, almost shit like smell coming from the yellow material. What is going on? Is this normal?

                    The tent is brand new, it must be the waterproofing material they use, but I've never experienced anything like this so it's really strange and I wanted to see if anyone else noticed it?

                    Hi, may i know how can or where can i order...

                    Hi, may i know how can or where can i order the 2 door version of Black Diamond Bibler Eldorado and can it be shipped to Hong Kong . I want it urgently to catch up my hiking trip in Taiwan ... many thx !

                    O.K. I finally found out that the vestibule...

                    O.K. I finally found out that the vestibule is an add-on. I have another question. If it buckles on is the seam waterproof? Also, if it comes to a point it doesn't look like you could put very much in there. Can you put a large pack in there?Thanks again, Bill

                    In the picture of the tent it looks like...

                    In the picture of the tent it looks like there is no vestibule but the diagram shows the vestibule sticking out in front of the tent. It;s a single wall tent so where is the vestibule? Thanks, Bill