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keeps the biner in the correct position
I like 'em
the whole skinny or thick dogbone is really personal preference. i got a buddy that says he saw one of these skinny ones get shredded on a route, but i've had mine since 2007 and only recently started think about retiring them. i had the rubber insert on one of my 15 draws break. this isn't a safety issue, but allows the chance that the biner may be flipped around.
again, the choice is really presonal preference. but i like the skinny doggbones and have had almost no issues with durability.
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
My entire sport rack is compiled of the 12cm/14mm dogbones. They're lightweight and thin, yet I have never worried about them holding up to weekly use. They are a non-fussy dogbone and paired with a neutrino, petzl ange s, or a wild country helios and you'll be sporting an ultralight rack to crush with. These work really well for long trad routes as again, they're don't get in the way, but when you need them, you're glad you have them.
- Gender: Male
- Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer
I use 12cm and 18cm 14mm width BD Dogbones to make a custom quickdraw set.
These dogbones are light, comfortable and feel bomber. The bolt-end loop is wide enough so there's no need to unclip the bolt-end binner to link two or more draws.
The only drawback is that rubber insert on the rope end can be easily damaged. Not a World-class problem, but I would prefer Metolius JIG like design.
Turning old to new
These are so useful when replacing old dog bones and reusing the biners that are still in good condition. With a cheap way to get some new biners for your old ones, you can't beat these.
I went with the 18cm/14mm size and they're perfect. I like my draws a bit longer to cut the drag and I've never felt really comfortable with the 10mm dynex. Nice rubber grommet keeps the rope end from rotating. I paired these with some DMM Alpha carabiners to make my favorite new draws.
I like the shorties and the rubebr. Use them on sport climbs and i nthe alpine all winter.
what width and length would be good for...
what width and length would be good for sport climbing , I was thinking about 14mm/15cm but im not sure if 14mm/12cm would be better (short QD for sport climbing and alpine on 60cm sling for mountains) what Do You think?
I use the short ones for sport.
i know this is old, but a good convo. it depends on where you're climbing. a blocky wall that has lots of roofs would be a great place for long draws, but they would be annoying on a vertical wall that doens't have wandering routes. i've seen most people get mostly shorted draws with a few longer ones for anchors or special circumstances.
If you are building your own quickdraws, replacing old dogbones, or making a longer quickdraw, these are the dogbones for you. They are really thin and will stay out of the way. The Dynex means they are solid and strong.
nice and lightweight. Kind of short for trad but good for sport climbing.
nice and lightweight. Kind of short for trad but good for sport climbing.
Replace your wornout dogbones
Solid but light
Bought two 20cm to have a few slightly longer draws. I end up using these two on almost every route (all sport, but sometimes the extra length helps smooth out the rope line). I'll probably buy more when I need more gear.
Black Diamond Dogbones
I just picked up a few of these and love them. Super light weight and a name you can trust. I found on the larger size you can take a small rubber band and slide on tight before you but your carabiner on and it will hold it in place pretty well. The loop on the opposite side of the gasket is a larger loop so it adds some security to the carabiner from flipping over.
light and strong
BD always makes high quality stuff. I love hte rubber gasket that holds the 'biner in place.
Not the thick ones
These are, or course being from BD, top quality gear. Light, strong and everything you want from a sling...
That being said they ARE the skinny 10mm ones...The BC Chat guy said they were the thick ones cause the picture showed both...I will say this; BC offered to return the items and when i told them i was going on a trip and needed them they said "go on the trip and then send em back for a refund..." so that was awesome...I ended up keeping them even though BC offered to cover shipping both ways and a return a USED item...
Great Customer Service on the back end even if the order accuracy left a bit to be desired.
I need some of these thin dynex 20 cm...
I need some of these thin dynex 20 cm dogbones that have the rubber insert for holding the rope carabiner but do not know which one to order - there are the 20cm sewn dynex for $3.68 apiece and then there are 20cm dynex ones for $5.31 apiece - which one fits my stated need. Thanks
I'd get the more expensive ones. I think the cheaper ones might be the nylon and they just got labeled improperly, but it would suck to order a bunch and then end up with nylon when you wanted Dynex. It would make sense. To be sure, I'd get on Live Chat and ask.
I'd go cheap.
Mix and match
I use these to make my own anchor draws. Throw a Rocklock in the narrow loop (after cutting the rubber out), a Quicksilver in the big one, repeat, and voila! You've got two anchor draws to throw in at the chains for a quick, safe, and easy anchor.
I still like the nylon
It appears that Black Diamond is beginning to use the 10mm Dynex more and more. They aren't using the nylon dogbones in their quickdraw combinations anymore. I have some of the nylon ones as well as some of the Dynex. I feel that the wider slightly stiffer nylon ones are more stable when clipping the rope into the bottom biner, because the Dynex slings tend to twist more easily. They are both rated at 22kn so you can't go wrong with either one. Rubber inserts on the rope end are a must to have on all 'draws. They hold the biner firmly in proper orientation and are available on both the Dynex and nylon. Overall-Great product from a great company.