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Black Diamond Camalot C4 Package #0.5 - 3

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    Build your rack right.

    Incredible expansion range and low weight make the Black Diamond Camalot C4 Package a perfect way to start off any trad rack or beef up an old one. These five cams (size 0.5-3) cover all the bases from fingers to fists. The new Camalots are so dialed that two half-sizes were eliminated because the new increased expansion range deemed them obsolete. In addition to providing this increased range, the double-axle design makes these cams full strength even when placed passively. With all these advances, Black Diamond still managed to decrease weight by 30%, because no one likes weight.

    • Double-axle design for extra-large expansion range
    • Double-axle design works as cam stops to increase strength of tipped-out placements
    • Large thumb loop provides a clip-in point for aid climbers
    • These are 30% lighter than previous Camalots
    • Color-coded for quick identification
    • Includes five sizes from .05 to 3 (loose fingers to fists)
    • Click sizing chart link for range, strength, and weight info
    • Item #BLD0918

    Tech Specs

    Range
    see sizing chart
    Strength
    see sizing chart
    Stem
    single
    Axles
    double
    Cam Lobes
    4
    Cam Stops
    yes
    Cams Included
    5
    Claimed Weight
    see sizing chart
    Recommended Use
    trad climbing
    Manufacturer Warranty
    1 year

    Tech Specs

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    The standard

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    These cams are the best medium sized cams on the market. I've used sizes .5 to 3 extensively in Yosemite - they are light, fit well in pretty much any appropriately sized crack, and they are very secure. They are definitely the medium-sized cam against which all others are judged.

    What more can be said?

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    ...that hasnt been already. BD continues to make great quality and thats what youll find in these. I just wish they would come with a carabiner already attached rather than having to buy them separately.

    Great Cams

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    There are a lot of cams on the market, and these have to be some of the best. They feel solid from the moment you pick them up, to the moment you're falling on to one of them. The durability is pretty good as well. There is a reason entire guidebooks are written in "Camalot".

    BD for the win

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    These cams are great, simple design, smooth and easy to place. I have nothing bad to say about these things at all. The black diamond c4 truly has become the standard for cams. It's awesome that you can send them in to have trigger kits fixed as well as get them re-slung when needed. get a set of these guys and you will be impressed.

    The Gold Standard in Cams

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    C4's make up the heart of your rack. They are durable and easy to place. The reason for 4/5 stars is the short slings. I prefer the DMM dragons in some situations because of their shorter stems and longer, adjustable slings. Over all these are high quality pieces of pro.

    The gold standard

    • Familiarity: I've used it several times

    I picked up this set of C4s, along with a set of DMM stoppers to start my trad rack. The C4 cams are well engineered, beautiful, and provide solid protection. They are a great balance between price, expansion range, weight, and do all this while maintaining superb quality. The five sizes in this set (.05 to 3) were perfect for all the climbs I did in the Gunks.
    When I picked these up Backcountry had these on sale for a little over $260 but I would not hesitate to pay full price when I end up buying doubles and triples of these to keep building my rack.

    The Standard

    • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

    C4's are the standard to which I evaluate all other cams. These cams are so darn solid in so many ways, it is really hard to find anything else that does so well in so many ways. Of course climbers have their unique preferences and these are not the best is some specific applications, but overall nothing beats the C4!

    Things I love:
    - The trigger and loop design is so freakin' solid! No silly post or awkward triggers here. The C4 feels great in hand when plugging it in the crack.
    - The cam action also feels solid, not too stiff and not too loose, but just right!
    - These are nice and burly cams that will give you a good amount of use. Of course nothing lasts forever and big whippers can eat up cams, but I feel super confident in the strength of these cams.
    - The double axle design allows great range but also can be used as a passive placement if you really really needed to, but not recommended.
    - The head is fairly narrow for how beefy these cams are. There are some other cams on the market that have much more narrow head for slotting into shallow cracks, but the C4's are pretty darn good here.
    - The webbing is again really solid and has held up great after a lot of use.
    - The thump loop is also great for having a little higher clip in point for aid climbing.
    - These are also decently flexible. Again not the best, but pretty darn good!

    Overall you really just can't beat these cams! I have used these a ton and look forward to many more climbs!

    Perfect starter pack for my trad rack

    • Familiarity: I've used it once or twice and have initial impressions

    This is a great range of sizes to start my trad rack. I got the Neutrino rackpack so that I can match the colors to the biners. I have no doubt I'll be buying doubles and triples as I keep building my rack. Looking forward to getting either C3s or X4s soon!

    Why did the price of this package jump more than $50?

    Hey,



    So the price jump was due to BD switching things up.



    For a while their cams were being produced in China but they've began the process of transitioning the manufacturing back to the North America.



    Shoot me an email anytime you have climbing questions!



    Jared D.

    Expert Gearhead

    801.736.4336

    jdowns@backcountry.com

    wouldn't it make sense to have the 5 cam...

    wouldn't it make sense to have the 5 cam set on sale, if the individual cams are on sale also? right now it's cheaper to buy them individual....

    Ok, its decided, i AM going to purchase...

    Ok, its decided, i AM going to purchase SOME cams. But what i need to know now is, if I were to buy 3 cams, and a set of nuts + a set of hexes, which three cams should i buy to best (and most flexibly) diversify my rack?

    PS: I live in Central California and most routes will probably be straightforward granite cracks (e.g. Dome Rock; "The Tree Route").

    Best Answer

    Buy the cams that will fit best in the types of climbs you want to do. .4-.5 is fingers, 1-2 is hands, 3-4 is fists etc. If you don't know what you want to climb, .75-2 are a safe bet - and the ones I find myself using the most.

    I really like cams, and actually don't use hexcentrics at all - although they're light, cheap and strong i find them very slow to place, and a little funky. They do give you old school street cred though.

    Cams are indispensable, and make sure you get these BD C4's, they're the best value because you get the most expansion range for your dollar. I personally would recommend waiting until you have enough money for this set of 5 instead of buying just three, as you're DEFINITELY going to want more cams on your rack, and you'll save money in the long run. Have you considered buying the cams yourself and having your partner pick up the passive pro, slings, and carabiners?

    I'd also second the recommendation of finding a more experienced partner with a full rack who you can 2nd, lots of people are looking for partners on mountain project. Climbing on someone else's rack gives you the chance to learn what fits most often and what you like to use, without spending any money. As long as you supply the beer, that mentor will be stoked.

    Are cams really a must do for first time...

    Are cams really a must do for first time trad climbers. Im looking at building up a basic rack over time and on a pretty low budget and would like to know if cam's in general are worth the extra dough? Im looking right now at a balance between nuts and cams, but if i can cut costs i'd love to. Any help would be much appreciated.

    Try and Build up a rack slowly if you don't have a lot of money. If you have other people to climb with that have gear then its easy to use their stuff and find out for yourself what you will want on your rack.

    I know a lot of people including myself that start with cheaper stuff like a set of nuts, hexes, and tri-cams. These are all pretty cheap. Then you can start buying a cam or two here and there when you have the money.

    In the end though you need cams, there is no good way around it if you want to be a part of the modern sport.

    You could probably get away with not having cams at first depending on where you go and if you pick your routes wisely. Ultimately though like Matt said you will need to get cams but collecting them over time would work because they are kind of expensive.

    I'd almost recommend starting out not using cams at first because then you learn to use nuts, hexes, tricams appropriately. I've seen people who overuse cams and probably wouldn't be able to set great pieces using the non cam methods.

    I agree with the other climbers on learning with passive protection first. I spent over two years leading on nuts and hexes while saving for a full set of cams (cheaper to buy a full set or two full sets when some one will cut you a deal versus one at a time).

    The biggest advance for inexpensive pro in the last 20 years (my opinion) is large wired hexes. Large wired hexes handle the bigger cracks and are way easier to place than hexes slung with cord--don't bother with cord. On moderate multi-pitch and alpine routes I carry more large wired hexes and less cams for weight issues. You can also buy 3 or 4 of a single size versus one cam.

    Cams are a god-send in dire moments or in parallel sided smooth cracks, but I place the hexes and nuts when at good stances or where ever the rock allows and save the cams for terror mitigation. Also, think about where you are climbing and what kinds of pro issues the area serves up. Small cams (CCH Aliens under 1") have saved my bacon more so than my larger cams because small cracks tend to be harder for my fat fingers and toes to deal with. So when you do buy your first cams, think about the routes you want to attempt that are challenging your passive pro skills and buy those sizes first.

    Best Answer

    Short answer: YES! Cams are the bomb. Much to my girlfriend's dismay I sometimes bring mine to bed & sleep with them.

    Long answer: Everyone has it right with passive protection being the way to go. If I were you I'd buy one of the cams you'll end up double or tripling up on, such as the .75, 1, or 2... then load up on stoppers.

    The big issue with stoppers is they take a few pitches to really learn how to place fast. Start on the ground (of course!) & try aiding a little bit. When you head up the crag & start to get sketched, slot that cam and relax. With the cam having your back you can take all the time in the world to find a stopper placement. Once it's bombproof, take the cam out and move along!

    My vote goes for one or two cams, green to yellow, then double up on stoppers four to eleven or twelve. Once your passive style is dialed, THEN worry about having tons of cams.

    Can you tell me how much are the Black...

    Can you tell me how much are the Black Diamond Camalot C4 Package 0,5-3 in Euro, Thanks

    Can this product be shiped to Australia...

    Can this product be shiped to Australia Adelaide if purchased online through this store???