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You're not doing double-rope rappels, so why pack around a double-rope device? Simplify your cragging gear with the Black Diamond ATC-Sport Belay Device.
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As said before, it's good for what it's made for
Granted, it may not be as handy as a XP or Guide, but it sure isn't crap. There is a reason it's called the ATC-"Sport."
I got one because I found it for under $10 (so I'm biased on the price) but quite frankly, I think it works pretty dang good. It's extremely smooth and catches well, it's small and light and it does exactly what it was made for: single pitch and gym climbing!
If you want a solution to prevent sport anchor wear from lowering or you just need/want to rappel, just learn how to set up a pull-able single rope rappel! It's good knowledge to have whether you own this or not.
If you don't plan on doing much more than single pitch and gym climbing, this does what you need. And if the time comes that you need to buy another device for multi pitch or rappelling or whatever, you'll have two belay devices. The more, the merrier.
Swiftwater Rescue Worthy
First off, worthless for climbing unless you're a gym rat.For the purpose of building a z-drag with an auto locker. Perfect. You can take one person out of the equation with this ATC by placing it between the anchor pulley and brake prussic, and it will prevent the prussic from getting into the anchor pulley. Simple! Safe! I'd buy one just for this purpose.
Don't waste your money
If your going to buy a tube device just spend the extra money and buy one that can do it all (double rope rappel, autoblock, etc...).
THE WORST IDEA EVER
this product is quite possibly the worst idea that the usually great development team at Black Diamond could have ever thought of. not only can u only belay on rope but more importantly should u choose to go climbing outside you can not rappel on it. I would implore Black Diamond to pull this product from the market and reuse the metal for something we can all enjoy. that being said the only time this product will work is in a gym at at that point the weight savings doesn't matter anyway so all in all do not ever waste your money on something that is so poorly designed and implemented.
I used one once. It's pointless.
Not significantly cheaper/lighter/easier to use than the XP to make it worthwhile getting one of these.
As most reviewers point out, what's the point? I suppose the sleek, colorful design does look pretty flashy hanging on the gear loop...but no meaningful functional benefit whatsoever.
Why buy something solely for the climbing gym?
Those climbing shoes you bought work fine in the gym, in cracks, and on faces. That harness is safe both indoors and outside. So why buy something so limiting, as is the ATC-sport? If you climb (anywhere inside or out), someday you're going to want to rappel, and if you have this thing, you're going to be kicking yourself!
Why not buy two?
Then combine them with a zip tie to simulate a normal ATC. (Two stars = 1 for each ATC-sport).
Do you weight weenies really need to save the whole 29 Grams over an XP? This might be one of the most useless things BD makes. This might be fine for some short sport routes or in the gym but if you are going to buy an ATC just get a real one that won't leave you up shat creek if you need to come down on 2 ropes.
Twin rope through one critical point????????? What is the point? Safe'n up fools!
good for what its made for
this is made for single pitch sport climbing. it is a good size and weight for use at a gym or at any single pitch crag. if you re doing multi pitch or rap then spend the extra cash for the atc guide. if not this ll work just fine
straight up sucks
OK, so for single pitch and you are never going to leave the ground its an ok device, its does feed the rop well, but thats it.
you can rap with it for crap, you cant stuff a doubled up rope in there. You can belay a second for an anchor.
$17 worth of limiting equipment. go spend an extra $2 and get a twin tube at least. for $10 more get a atc guide.
this has got to be just about the most useless thing out there for the money. Don't get it.
I bought one, and then needed to buy a XP
Bought one of these because it fitted my short term need (device for glacier travel/crevasse rescue). As soon as I started a mountaineering course I realized I needed an XP for rappelling. The folks are correct who ask why limit yourself?
Not worth it
might as well get one so you can double rope rappel. this one is pointless
weird little guy
i fondled this guy and its just feels weird. id much rather go for an xp or guide. i didn't like how its only the single option. not a good call
lets be fair
Alright, this ATC is very light weight but not the best choice for multi pitch or even more intense climbs. However, this ATC does work and is a great choice for someone that does not need to spend the extra money on the HP or will not be needing an ATC for twin rope belays. For gym use this ATC is awesome.
BD has finally designed something capable of creating some very humorous posts. If your really thinking of buying this don't, if you have do yourself a favor and leave it at home. This is not going to become the next rage, neon spandex has a better chance of making a comeback.
gym yes, rock no
For the gym this thing is perfect. In the real world, not so much.
If all you plan to do is climb at the gym, this is a great belay device. If you EVER plan to hit the rocks, don't waste your money. get something that handles twin ropes.
To be fair, I use this at the gym ALL the time, but for anything else I use the Petzl Reverso 3