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what size should i get for my 169 kung...
Jacob Rieder
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what size should i get for my 169 kung fujas?
Angus Bohanon
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If you'll be mostly on hardpack, get whatever size is nearest, but narrower than, the waist. Otherwise get the ones that are wider than the tip and then trim them. As far as length, they're all really long, you're supposed to trim them to length.
At the risk of being repetitive, I have...
Richard
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At the risk of being repetitive, I have Rossi S5 Barras 128/98/121 and I'm wondering if 110's would work or if I should hold out for 120 which are not currently in stock. I mean it is the middle of summer - I don't need them tomorrow.
Ben Lyman
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The last thing you want is too much base exposure that results in poor climbing performance on side hills, so don't get the 110's. With the 120's, you're only going to have 4mm exposure on either side at the widest point of the ski, so you won't even need to trim that part of the skin.
Sorry to hear you don't need them tomorrow, but I guess that booting is preferred for climbing July snow patches anyway. Pray for snow.
These things stick!
Kerry
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I love the Ascensions. I've been using the same pair for four seasons now and they still work great. They'll get you up the steeps with minimal sliding. The rear clip is sometimes hard to work with twin tips, but it's not a big issue. Make sure you put them in your jacket to keep them warm between runs. In severe cold weather, I've had issues with them icing up...but I think that would happen to any skin.
** Rule of thumb - to get full coverage, buy skins that are 10mm less than the widest part of your ski. For example, if you have 130mm tips, buy 120mm skins. You'll be good to go!
Very good product!!!!
Rodrigo Martin Boquin
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It is excellent for setting the STS system, much faster and easier when it comes to putting. Very good buy, but a little expensive ...
I bought a pair of Fischer boundless crown...
dahlia
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I bought a pair of Fischer boundless crown skis, 98 69 88, and would like to order skins. Does anyone know if the sts or clipfix would be best with this particular ski? I ski in oregon in a wide variety of terrain and snow conditions, thanks!
Purtty Sweet
PiperCub
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So this was my fist season on skins and it's unclear to me as to why I waited so long in life to hike for my turns as opposed to riding the lift. Hmmm. Anyway, these skins are great! They're super strong and durable; I slipped only slightly on real steep and icy stuff, but not bad. They don't pack down real small, definately a little awkward if you just plan on putting them in your jacket.
Sa-weet
Scott Chamberlin
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Super awesome. Never let me down, pretty durable. The adjustable strap on the tail allows you to use a variety of length skis with the same skin, and skins work on a variety of sidecut as well. Example: my skins are cut for 84-underfoot 184 length, and they also work great on my 90-underfoot 193's. THE choice if you're looking for a skin.
what size should i get for my 195 motherships...
johnman1
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what size should i get for my 195 motherships and my 189 obsetheds?
Shane O'Donnell
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They don't have a skin wide enough in stock, but look for one in about a 110mm width and trim it down to fit the narrower ski, if you want just one set of skins for both skis.
Great Skins
Jason True
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What can I say, these skins do their job admirably. No problems with the glue or overall durability. Highly recommended.
I have the Volkl Gotama, 133 / 105 / 124mm...
Collin Tilbe
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I have the Volkl Gotama, 133 / 105 / 124mm . I bought the 110mm skins. Will they be too narrow at the tip and tail?
Shane O'Donnell
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Well it is one straight width for the full length, so it definitely is not the same width as the tip or tail. This means no full coverage, which isn't that big of a deal. You still have a lot of coverage this way.
Alexander Klivecka
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Yeah I'd think you'll be just fine with the 110s
Ben Lyman
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I had 120's on my Gotamas, and kicked myself all the time that I hadn't used 130's. With a 110 mm skin under a 133 mm ski, you're going to have over a centimeter of exposed base on each side of the ski at the tip, and seven mm on each side at the tail. Good luck climbing firm snow with that much base showing.
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Carolyn Yeaton (aka Holliday)
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If you have a fat twin ski this is the way to go. The sts system works the best with the twin tail. They will not fall off as easy or get frozen with snow and make you crazy mad. Over all a great product and durable. Do go to the Black Diamond website if you have never cut skins. It will make it tons easier.
no problem.
James Wright
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third pair of these (for diff skis). Only skins I've ever owned. Very effective.
Hi,
I have a question about what brand,...
rmartens1217362
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Hi,
I have a question about what brand, type and width of skins to use. They will mostly be used for skinning up ski trails to access upper trails in Maine after the ski area is closed and for some skinning on Mt. Washington. I'm thinking corn, ice, wind blown conditions but maybe a little powder if I'm lucky. I have volkl Bridges with a Marker Duke AT binding. Ski length is 169 and dimension are 130-92-112.
Thanks for your time and help!
Bob
Cory Guru
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For me, the Ascensions have have been bomber through a variety of snow conditions and I have never had a problem with them icing up. Also the STS clip works great with twin tips!
For your skies, I would suggest 130 mm skins, then trim them to fit. But unfortunately at this time, BC.com are out of stock of anything in that size and in this case I suggest ordering them through Black Diamond: http://www.bdel.com/gear/sts.php
Great Skins.....Stick with em!
ForestRunner
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These are the best skins on the market. They are easy to size and fit to your skis, they glide and stick really well, and fold up to a reasonable size to fit in your jacket or pack. Some recommendations: If you have wide skis, I would recommend using the piece of plastic netting that comes with the skins out in the backcountry. My skins are pretty wide and it takes two people to pull them apart if I fold them onto themselves; also on sizing, my skis are 124 at the widest width and I got the 120 skins and they are perfect. You dont want or need you entire tips covered, so you can usually go with the smaller skin as long as it is within 5 mm. Have fun out there!
I have a pair of old rossi B3's 120 tip...
rlloyd2281195
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I have a pair of old rossi B3's 120 tip 93 waist 113 tail. What width skins would you buy?
Angus Bohanon
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If you're hiking in powder, get 110 and cut them down. If you're hiking heavy or hardpacked snow, get 90 and save yourself the hassle. You only need the extra coverage in really light, dry snow.
Evan Stevens
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No!!!!! Angus is wrong on this one. Get at least 110mm width skins and trim them to fit. Alway get wall to wall skins, it makes so so so much difference when skinning on new or old tracks.
ForestRunner
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Go with the 120mm. I have 124-90-113s and got the 120 and trimmed them down to fit. They are perfect. You could get away with the 110, but your tip and tail wont be adequately covered, which may cause you to loose traction. Dont go with the 90s, you will have wasted your money. Trimming down skins is really easy and worth the 15 minutes it takes to do it.
Ben Lyman
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I'm with Evan on this one, except that I think he meant to get at least the 120's. I skin in heavy, wet snow all the time, and I promise that having 7 mm, let alone 12 mm, of base exposed on each side will make traversing a serious pain. Ideally, you want between 4 and 5 mm of exposed base on each side of the ski, as this gives you the benefit of an exposed metal edge and full coverage.
bomber skins
skibikejunkie
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durable and grippy enough not to slide backwards on the skin track, even when you're following the BD crew on dawn patrol and they're going straight up the hill. What more could you want?
I've heard gripes about the tip loop but never had a problem with mine coming off. If you make sure the tip to clip length is adjusted short enough to clip on nice and tight, I don't think you'll have problems. I wrapped a rubberband around my skins right behind the tip loop to keep the folded back portion from coming undone. also found that a utility knife works much better than the included trimming tool, just be careful.
I have the 165 killowatt which is 95 mm's...
drew keown
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I have the 165 killowatt which is 95 mm's underfoot. I am thinking that the 90mm skins would work fine. The skins would not have to be trimmed and I would have some edge exposed for security. I recently borrowed a pair of much narrower skins for the killowatts and they worked well. What do you think?
Angus Bohanon
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If you're hiking on solid heavy snow, then by all means get the narrow skins and avoid the hassle of cutting. If you're hiking in powder though, you'll need all the grip you can get and should purchase skins slightly narrower than your widest point, then trim them down. It all depends on where you're touring.
Evan Stevens
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Careful there...Angus is steering you a little wrong. I guide ski touring about 80 days a season, and consistently one of the biggest problems people have is NOT having skins trimmed to fit their skis. You will suffer. If you are the 3rd person through on a skin track or greater you WILL slip. Get the 110s or 120s and trim them to fit with just one extra edge width of base exposed. You don't need more than that.
No problems thus far
Will Cardamone
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I have been using these skins for the last three years and have never had a problem. They come precut to any BD skis but can be cut easily to fit any other skis. They are not the lightest skins but what they don't make up for in weight, they cover double in functionality. They seldom slip and if they are taken care of they can last forever. Anyway a little more weight attached to your feet can only make you stronger in the long run. These skins are bomber and work way better than any other skins out there. Make sure to insert the metal tail clip at the tightest possible setting and you will have no problems with them coming off during your skin. I have had touring days when i have put on and taken off these skins over ten times and they are easy and manageable every time. Hope this helps
best skins out there.
Wayne Harvey
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I never have any problems with BD skins. Even the skins for my 10 yr old skis are still going strong.
what are skins for..heard many mixed...
Kyle
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what are skins for..heard many mixed things..been in the skiiing game for a bit..then took some time off and now back into it and trying to get into it alot..been doing the poaching and backcountry thing kinda for out east..wanna learn some more tips/tricks......
Bud Martin
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Skins are for walking uphill, they glide forward but grab when you try to move the ski back. They will only work with an Alpine Touring or a Telemark setup. They attach to your ski with a glue that holds it on but releases when you pull the skin off. Did that help?
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Ben Lyman
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