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- These packs have been inspected and are not included in the 2010 Black Diamond AvaLung Pack Recall
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Black Diamond Alias Avalung Pack - 1831-1939cu in
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I really like this pack and am thinking...
jackiboy
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I really like this pack and am thinking about getting it for those days in the backcountry. A coupe of questions: I'm 5'7'' so would the s/m size work for me? Also, would this pack be enough for overnight hut trips and stuff of that nature while also being minimalist enough for just a day trip?
Is there any kind of system on this pack...
Ted Wogan
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Is there any kind of system on this pack for helmet storage?
Arthur Debowski
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You could put it under the brain (lid) of the pack otherwise for a dedicated helmet holder I would look to the Covert Avalung.
Great Pack
willhuck4food
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The lightweight, thoughtful design in avalung, shovel pocket, lid, water bladder pouch, straps and other features make this an ideal pack for touring. It is a bit small for extensive overnighters, but ideal for carrying all your snow study and self rescue tools, extra clothes and lunch. I would definitely recommend this pack. This is a thoughtfully designed and superb pack for touring and light ski mountaineering.
Back country skiing near Mount Baker
Ryan McShane
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Alias
Andy Jacobsen
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Dylan Freed at the bottom of another nice wasatch couloir.
Avalanche Burial with Black Diamond AvaLung
Brad Barlage
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On a heli-ski trip out of Haines, AK in April 2008, experienced backcountry skier Chris Cardello was prepared and knew the risks. He was also wearing a helmet cam. This footage is an intense first person perspective on being caught in an avalanche, riding it to burial, breathing through a Black Diamond AvaLung and being rescued by trained professionals. Be safe out there!
The Black Diamond AvaLung allows you to breathe fresh air directly from the snowpack, buying you precious time during a rescue. Rebreathing exhaled air when youre buried causes suffocation because the air becomes oversaturated with carbon dioxide and depleted of oxygen. The AvaLung diverts the exhausted air away from your fresh-air intake zone, considerably extending the time your partners have to conduct a successful recovery.
I'm new to the world of back country skiing,...
Ross Morgan
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I'm new to the world of back country skiing, and am looking for a pack that I can use to carry skis and boots. Does the BD Alias provide that ability? Or is the usual assumption in back country skiing, that you wear your ski boots on your snow shoes or whatever...Thanks for the thoughts
Shane O'Donnell
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This really is not a super big bag, 30L. So you don't have much room after the ski boots for any other gear. Plus, I don't know how well it would even hod up to that in it. But the general idea of backcountry is you have touring bindings on your skis, which allow you to release your heel, and walk uphill with skins on your skis, a lot like snowshoes but longer. Lock them down again for the ride down.
often wondered if it's better to get an...
bruce johnston
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often wondered if it's better to get an avalung that's not part of a pack, since one might for different occaisions want to use a different pack?
Bryan Vernetson
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That is a perfect point and it is completely preferential! This pack does, however, hit the middle of the road for size...not too big or small.
Randy
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The individual Avalung-not part of a pack- cannot be used as an integral part of another pack, i.e. you cannot use the Avalung itself inside of, or as part of another pack. This could be p[otentially be a deadly mistake, as the Avalung mechanism needs to be exposed in certain locations.See the Black Diamond website for more info on Avalung use and operation....
Perfect size
Kerry
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This is a great touring pack. It has one main compartment (top-loading) with a pull cord top for easy access, plus a small zipper pocket on top for small items. It has a separate front pocket for shovel, probe, etc. Several straps on the outside allow for adequate compression and an outer shell can easily be thrown under the top pocket. It holds skis well when boot-packing- make sure you have a ski tie of some sort for the tips (A-frame style). I've carried my EP Pro's (127mm underfoot) with this pack many times; fat skis are not an issue. Luckily, I haven't had to use the Avalung, but it could be considered a good safety device.
There are a few parts of the pack that I dislike, but they don't take away from the overall positive feeling. The waist belt could definitely be a little thicker for more comfort and support. I also feel that an outside attachment for a shovel handle would be much more appealing than throwing the handle in the snow pocket. Maybe my Voile TelePro shovel handle is longer than others, but I it pokes up into the top pocket when cinched down.
I put a nylon cord through the small loops on the top of the pack to secure small items down. I found this to be convenient.
Overall, I love the pack. It's the perfect size for touring (30L), holds skis securely, and is comfortable to wear. Also, the Avalung may dig into your shoulder if you buy the wrong size for your torso, so definitely try it on before buying!
BD Alias Avalung in Action in th Lachanel Couloir, Chamonix
Chris Davenport
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does black diamond give an alloted time...
jacob thetford
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does black diamond give an alloted time that you can breath
Shane O'Donnell
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They don't have a set length of time that it will work, because it varies according to things like the snowpack, how loose it is, how wet it is, how fast the user is breathing, and many other factors. It will help you survive, but don't count on it for a long period of time.
Andy Jacobsen
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BD has done tests with some very brave individuals who volunteered to be buried with an avalung. They were equipped with some sort of thermometer to track body temprature and a heart rate monitor which was monitored by a doctor. I believe that most individuals were buried for up to an hour! I do agree with Shane's answer below, that it is very dependent on many factors. Which is probably why BD does not specify a certain amount of time.
how does this pack carry diagonal? your...
fastlikecat
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how does this pack carry diagonal? your chart says so, but it doesn't appear to the case.
also your chart says there's no axe loop, but it has one.
it could be that your chart is for a different pack.
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Evan Stevens
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Ummm...I don't know what that last answer was about, but, most of the ski packs use the ice axe loop to put the tails through and than the top part clips in to the straps on the upper part of the pack. It definitely does the diagonal ski carry.
Kerry
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I find that the best way to carry skis with the Alias is A-frame style...not sure how you could rig them diagonally.
5 days off piste and still not pissed off
Joshua Keith
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This pack rides like a shadow and carries everything you need (plus some) without hampering your style. I spent 5 days skiing everything from groomers to chutes and cliffs. The pack excelled at steep back country terrain. Two areas which were problematic: bumps and "tucking". In bumps, I noticed the pack more than I would like and needed to tighten the straps... which solved the problem. When "tucking" I found the top lid prevented me from really lifting my head, so if you want to drop into a tuck this pack really isn't for you. Otherwise, BD hit a homerun in my opinion. 1800 cubic sounds large, but the pack zips down to a manageable size. The pack does exactly what it is designed to do with out the 'bells and whistles' of the airline luggage models.
Covert vs Alias vs Outlaw... how do these...
Joshua Keith
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Covert vs Alias vs Outlaw... how do these packs ski when they're not entirely full? Any opinions on performance differences or are they primarily stylistic choices?
Evan Stevens
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Personally, I don't like the alias. It is too tall and narrow, and just doesn't ride well. The covert (which I use) and the outlaw (which my wife uses) both pack well, and compress well, and ride in a more saggy, tear drop fashion, so the load is lower on your back and it doesn't get in the way of your head/noggin.
Light and fast operations...
Andy Jacobsen
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The Alias is my pack of choice for light and fast missions when traveling in avalanche terrain. BD has done their research and come up with a highly efficient tool for gaining and dispensing vertical with the added safety of an avalung. This pack is lighter than the other BD avalung packs of similar size. While I prefer the BD anarchist for carrying heavier loads the Alias really shines on long tours and climbs where I am going light and fast.
