what's the most important thing about backpacking?..
looking good. haha. well, that and all the other specs gear should have that this one is a little lacking in. looks great on, and wish they had the green in this one that they have in the girls. laminated sleeve pocket is great and you can stash your phone in it or whatever. not very warm, and the wind can get into it...i highly highly suggest the apache. i have 2 and they are SUPER warm and amazing! but these do look a little cooler. other issue is they aren't super long on the torso if you're really tall and get a slimmer fit. i'm 6'2 and 170 and got the small...little short in the torso, but does reach the top of the belt. looks great tho.