i believe this is the same one i got off of moosejaw, its one of mountain hardwears newer designs, but i have some misgivings. the quality is excellent and im sure they would function extremely well, but i didn't realize they were full length zips, which i had not anticipated in a softshell. it just makes it feel too stiff for my liking, like there's some resistance or something. if you want full side zips they'd be great, reinforced seat and knees etc. i may exchange and go with the patagonia alpine, or maybe one of MHs other models.