they are eveything i wanted
I took my time looking for this shoe. i looked at almost every other approach styled shoe on the market before i came across these beauties. For me they are a great blend of approach shoe sole with the support of a running shoe. The first time i used them was for a scramble up the flatirons outside boulder where they held their own smearing and edging on the way up then on the run back down the trail they were secure and comfortable. I typically wear a size 9.5 street shoe but these didn't feel quite right until i got down to an 8.5. other than that they feel great right out of the box.