The tasty red looks a whole lot like salmon in most lights (just so you know). the caviar is gun metal grey (my favorite color). the loft on these bad boys is substantially more than Patagonia's powder bowl insulated pants. the fit is much less baggy too. I am 6 foot , 165 pounds, and a 32 waist and the medium fits perfectly in my opinion. The only minor thing I would change is to not have the waist buttons exposed (to your belly on the inside). the powder bowls win on that front only. oh and the fabric of these is semi soft to the touch (which I hope does not mean that they will wear down quickly.
the powder bowls fabric is super SUPER durable (and restricts range of motion to a certain extent.
I have to say that these seem much more warm, and fit more comfortably.