You'll fail before they do
These tools are insane! They will grab the tiniest of rock features, and they place effortlessly in ice. The grip options are phenomenal--so many hand positions available. Overall, you'll fail before one of these babies lets go. I do agree with other reviewers, though: for more generic water ice, the Quarks are better, but for the steep stuff and mixed, the Nomics reign supreme. Even with the headweights removed, they still swing amazingly.