What I would call perfect hardshell pants
These pants are as advertised. They perform very well in wet icy situations (i.e. ice climbing). [They also worked well in snowy conditions, but you should wear some gaiters despite the snow skirts.] I have successfully used these pants to hike and climb a couple of 14'ers here the Colorado Rockies. For insulation layer for these pants, I suggest Arcteryx Tau pants.