Very worthwhile, No support from the company
I now have three pair because I seem to wear them all the time. The 2011 model improved greatly over the prior year because they added another leg pocket and, they no-kidding sewed the pockets instead of just gluing them on. Yes, "Welded construction" = nothing more sophisticated than glue which comes apart with use. Period. I wrote the company a scathing letter after having a pair put back together by a tailor. I got zilch from Patagonia - no offer to replace and not even a pencil-whipped apology but they changed the pants. The fit is euro-slender. I am 5,11" 180 with a 31" waist and I wear a 34" in these. Muscle types like me take notice. The belt loops (6) are wide enough and sturdy. The fabric is heavier and good in breezy, cool weather. These are equally good for ice climbing or summer bouldering up high. The leg cuffs are very nicely finished and adjust perfectly for boots. As to water repellancy, DWR is a joke so keep spraying them down with the renewer stuff if you care. Bottom line: these are great pants and Patagonia could care less aout your experence with them.