I bought these for my wife. We do a lot of skiing in and out of bounds and I hope to get her into overnight winter backcountry. Her hands are endlessly cold despite proper hydration and calorie intake. Bottom line is these gloves are PACKED with insulation. If your hands are still cold with them on, you have issues other than the gloves. No other glove I've seen packs in insulation like this. If you're still cold, buy mittens because gloves just ain't gonna cut if for ya. The only reason they got 4 stars is because of the lack of wrist strap... However she says the elastic wrist feels plenty snug and secure.