These pants are tops! I am 5'11" - weigh in at 175 pounds and have a 33" waist. The size medium fits well with all articulations in place and room for layering. They perfectly balance lightness of weight and durability and pack down to nothing. I bought these pants (after returning the MH Typhoon) for a fastpacking trip across the island of Hawai'i and they have since become a permanent piece in my UL-Kit. They are classically Arc'teryx in quality and price. Worth the cost as these are pants I trust!