These are are a tough mans wear. Get it and realize all others were made for the regular poptart.
so far, after several uses, they have been beat up pretty well, and still water proof, no holes, and the fabric just feels tough. i got them on an rei online sell, and i have never been so impressed by a product!
i will say, if you get a pair of gaiters, these ones are what you want. they work and last a beating. the velcros tough and lasting, and the bottom strap is some kind of tough indestructable tie. Get it.