The apes will really appreciate these when they finally take over.
Bought mine from a neighbors garage sale for five bucks. Silly mistake. I am told they are older than me. I've had these completely blackened from dirty cedar wood fire and they cleaned up like new while at camp. Fantastic on a stove. Good size for a pack of 4 travelers if you cook smartly. Mine came with webbing and a buckle to secure everything - highly recommended if not stock. Weight penalty perhaps but theyll be eating what's left of humanity out of these things when the time comes.