Didn't know what to expect from these pants. I've owned Arc'teryx, and north face pants that I've really liked but these are just as good for half the price. They fit true to size, are roomie but not to baggie, and have a great look and feel to them. The one thing I don't like is the snaps for the rear pockets. I'm to lazy to resnap after taking my wallet out. Seriously thinking about getting a second pair in a different color.