Stretch a lot
These shoes suck. I loved them at first. Got them as my trad shoes. So, they were tight but still comfy enough to wear them a whole day without being in excruciating pain. When I bought them, I got told that they basically don't stretch (or just a little).
Little did I know. They stretched a whole lot. Even with socks, they are way too big, especially the toe box and there is no way to tie them any tighter either.
I am terribly disappointed, especially as these shoes have not seen to much use either before stretching out that much.
Those shoes are useless for me and I am selling them again.
I would not recommend these shoes.