Going on my third season with the BD patrol glove and love them more than ever. I ski about 60 days a year and I make snow in the fall with these gloves so they see a good deal of use. The second top layer of leather is starting to really wear out in the palms and fingers and they really don't keep my fingers all that warm on a blisteringly cold day, but hey, thats skiing, thats just the way it is. Waterproof? Not really. Applying SnowSeal helps for a few weeks but eventually wears off. My patrol gloves are so nice and broken in that they smell like and old baseball mitt because they are made of genuine high-quality leather. I love these gloves, I'll have these things until the bitter end. (which may be sooner than later) Solid gloves.