Now this is just my opinion, but I think this product is too small for me. I'm sure they are strong enough and the gate works fine. It's just that I have big hands and was not crazy how little they are. Also did not like that I can't mix and match them with my other biners. But if your cool with using just them on your rack, and into the ultra lite weight thing. They are cool. I mostly use them for hanging stuff on my pack.