So this was my fist season on skins and it's unclear to me as to why I waited so long in life to hike for my turns as opposed to riding the lift. Hmmm. Anyway, these skins are great! They're super strong and durable; I slipped only slightly on real steep and icy stuff, but not bad. They don't pack down real small, definately a little awkward if you just plan on putting them in your jacket.