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Poor design ski/walk mechanism

I bought a pair of T-race boots last year after using the Garmont Ener-G boots for about 1 year. I read reviews on the T-race boots that mentioned "extremely stiff", or even some went so far as to call them "bold." If by "bold" they mean moderately durable and slightly stiffer than garmont, then yes, these are incredibly "bold". For some background, I ride Black Diamond Zealots 192 with 01 bindings (ext stiff cartridge). This is not the biggest setup around but it does require a stiff boot to support it beyond the groomed. Well, I got about three runs on the stiff cartridges before stressing the T-race boots to the point of bending the metal flank within the ski/walk mechanism. The right boot no longer held stiff and Scarpa was kind enough to send me replacement parts. I replaced the flank, and now it wobbles on the pin. I have already ordered BD custom boots from BC.com and have tried them on but not skiied yet. After trying them on, all I can say is, I wish I had gone with Black diamond boots to begin with. I hear last years had bad liners, but that they have fixed them this year. The stiffness feels incredible and the liner is very snug. Oh, and the most important part that I noticed, the flank on the BD walk/ski mechanism is burly. It's not a thin piece of metal that will bend on you if you use stiff bindings. Case in point, if you have big planks, and stiff bindings, DO NOT BUY THE T-RACE BOOTS WITH THE WALK/SKI MECHANISM. You will break them and be without boots for 4 weeks, as Scarpa says. I plan to send my T-race boots back now that I have new BD customs. I just wish I hadn't spent so much learning this lesson. I hope this reaches some of you in time to make a more informed decision. Too many reviews boast about these mediocre boots.

Poor design ski/walk mechanism
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hey nya I started to tele 5 yrs ago (I averaged 75 tele days per year since) on garmont ener G's and 182 K2 workstinx with G3 targa bindings, in 09 i moved up to G3 el hombres with scarpas ntn boots rotafellas bindings and this setup was sick in every way until the boots cracked at the nose (scarpa replaced within 3days) cracked the replacements and scarpa had no more so back to tele norm garmonts but put hammerheads on the hombres and lost all kinds of control everywhere (steeps, pow, groomers you name it) then i got a deal on the white red no walk mode T-race and gained almost everything i lost back except the alpine like edge control from NTN with 1 exception the K2's, then this year i moved up to the 2010-2011 192 zealots like you, but hammerheads again. I ride the T-race on all my boards most of the time but like to break out the garmonts a fair amount to help me progress in the learning process (the garmonts are so soft it forces me to be vary balanced) and the odd thing is, this "softeness" is only true with the hammerhead bound skiis, with the work stinx with the targas, there is vary little difference in feel between the 2 boots and my opinion is the bindings (targas with stiff springs) are not stiiff enough to translate the T-race power to the skiis and consequently i cant tell much diference except the garmonts are more comfortable, and my guess is the BD 01 though a little stiffer than the targas are not that close to the hammerheads (ive tried a couple pair of 01's that were friends skiis 1 of which had the stiffer springs) my point to all this bs is the zealots especialy the 192's are bad MF skiis and T race's are the same (white and red that is im hearing the black and red's are softer) and need hammerheads or possibly bishops (although i have not had the pleasure to ride em yet) if i were you, id keep the garmonts and seek a kill deal on white and reds they are sa-weet, enjoy the zealots...wow! and have fun brother PS broke 1 of the T-race power straps the other day, die cast metal buckle broke, geez scarpa !

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Eric, I already ended up going with the BD customs and it's night and day my friend. Night and day. The stiffness of the BD customs versus the Scarpa T-race (black & red of course. Haven't tried the candy canes) is similar to fixed heal versus snowbard boots. I'm exaggerating only slightly here. I feel as though I can fold my scarpas from the cuff down to the toe when I flex them. Coming from an alpine race background, if I can stress a boot enough to bend my ankle then it's a junk race boot. I wouldn't rag on Scarpa other than the fact that they call this boot the friggin T-Race! Like it's a race boot or something. It's not though. I hear ya on the hammerheads, and I wish I had gone for those in part because they are cheaper than my BD01s and because they have 6 screws on the toe pieces instead of 4 on BDs. I think the hammerheads are considered without a doubt to be the best binding out there. I had these 01s laying around though and basically brand new without a ski to mount them on until I got the Zealots. At any rate, with these new BD customs, I don't notice any loss of energy in the bindings when I turn. I am at peace now in my turns, while before with the T-races it was like I was fighting something every turn. I could feel pressure on my ankle, probably because it was taking the brunt of the force from my binding stiffness. I don't plan on returning to scarpa ever again, but if they work for you more power to ya. Also, I noticed with the BD customs, they have a strong hold on my heel thanks to a more defined achilles grip. No more do I feel the heel slip when I turn. Just another thing I noticed with the change.