I found these on S&C for a fantastic deal, and because you can never have too many kahkis, snagged a pair. I was pleasantly surprised at the color. Its definitely darker than what shows on the screen, which is a good thing. They're a bit softer than I expected, so I don't think I'll be wearing them to the crag at all, but definitely paddling or for a quick hike, cause they look good enough to wear to the bars afterwords. I wear 32's in everything, and these fit true to size. Plus they come with a cool Kavu sticker & bottle opener. You can never have too many bottle openers.