I really want to love them
I love these shoes. They're comfy, have great articulation with the fit with the laces and heel strap able to adjust to your foot in almost any orientation, and have great rubber. However, the fit doesn't work for me. They're too narrow in the toes. My foot isn't really wide, but they're too wide for these shoes. Also, the shape of the toe towards the outside means that anything small you want to catch requires you to point your toe straight at the wall. My La Sportiva Venoms allow for a much more relaxed stance when edging. These are great trad shoes (if they don't kill your feet), but not great for sport. You'll have to go down a couple of sizes when buying Scarpa, but don't go down too much because these shoes don't stretch as much as you would hope.