I like them lots
Great with original liners on warmer days and throw on my wool Ibex tights underneath on cold days. Vents are easy to use. Keep my cell phone always in the rear pocket for easy access while I'm supposed to be at work. But alas the pocket doesn't zip/unzip that easily with one hand, but better than digging it out of the Camelbak. Gets hung up on seat much less than other PI shorts I've had, but much more than just tights. With that said I've used them on about 200 rides and will continue to do so. Very little wear and tear, only slight sun bleaching on the lower legs. All stitching and fabric seems to be holding up, even in spots I've crashed on. The lack of a belt or drawstring hasn"t been an issue for me (5'10 155lbs 32" waist wearing the medium shorts). I used to be a just tights guy, but rarely ride without these ever since I got them. Yeah, a little pricey, but they seem like they're going to last forever.