This thing is great. I tried a few of the other "stuffable" packs and this is by far the best for me(as long as you don't need axe loops). The shoulder straps actually have padding and it rides quite well on the back (20.5" torso here). Very lightweight for what you are getting here. Just shove this in your bigger pack and you have a great little pack for dayhikes and summit scrambles. Built like a brick ____house.