Great shoe for the money
This was my very first climbing shoe and it certainly exceeded my expectations. I used this shoe for over a year (in a gym) and they lasted without any core shots. As you know gyms wear out shoes fast especially for a beginner, so it definitely stood the test of time. This shoe stretches quite a bit so size down more than you think. Also this is a very good shoe for slab, not a technical shoe by any means. If you like anything steep these shoes won't do it, but then again they weren't designed to. Either way they are a fantastic shoe.