Gear Review

3 5

Great pant; fit...not so great

  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

Great materials and weight, backed by Patagonia's waranty and environmental commitment. But the design needs some work, which is kind of dissapointing considering how long these have been around.

Pluses:
+ Good material (nice blend of breathability and warmth). I use these in temperate weather ski touring without long underwear, and the warmth/breathability is ideal.
+ With the gusseted leg zippers, they work for both ski boots and mountaineering boots
+ Some nice design points, such as a way to clip the leg button down when in expanded mode
+ The internal belt does not go all the way around (this makes it WAY easier to tailor these pants...your tailor can take them in without ruining the belt system)

Deltas:
- the elastic belt design is silly -- each side of the belt is attached to the pant with elastic...so you can't crank the belt down (since it stretches).
- Fit: Please Patagonia, please, please, please....make technical pants in "short" inseam lengths...I spend $20 per pair of pants to shorten them (and then I loose the elastic and grippers at the bottom of the pants)
- Make the legs a tiny bit wider and they'll actually fit over my shiny new dynafit boots.

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I couldn't agree more about the poor belt design. That was actually a dealbreaker for me.

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Yeah, I agree that the elastic in the belt is a deal breaker if I was going to buy another pair of pants like this. As it is I think I'm just going to sew the belt in place before where it turns into elastic.

Some venting would also be a nice addition to these pants.

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I had to tie a knot in the belt webbing to keep it from loosening with use. Have to over-tighten it so it's uncomfortable. Bad design choice IMO. cuffs shouldn't have a problem fitting over any bc ski boots when in the open configuration.