I bought this coat in 2008 with no real understanding on the down rating system. Just wanted a down coat and the price was right on this bad boy. I've taken this thing through a lot and it's still kicking. It's not excessively tough, but if you're careful you shouldn't have any troubles with tearing. My only real problem is one that seems to be expressed quite often with this particular coat and that is size. For those with a longer torso, I would go with something different. Also the fit isn't very slim, very "puffy" and round. And in extreme cold temperatures, I would suggest a second layer below. Other than that, great coat.