Great beginner shoe
I've had two pairs of these the first pair the toe split only after a month, and the second pair are going great. These shoes stretch a lot. I wear a size 9 street shoe and got a 7 and they were super tight at first but they broke in great. These shoes will die your feet red, but that's not a biggie. These shoes are great for beginners. They are fairly sticky and good flexibility. I would recommend these to any beginner climber.