I am a womens size 8.5. I bought my pair in a size 37.5. Pretty dang painful break-in period, but well worth it. The shoes fit perfect. No heel lift, they don't stink and I can edge on anything even after 8 month of regular climbing. Great indoor and outdoor and the lacing system is quicker than you would think.
I like my shoes pretty tight so maybe size up a half size if you don't like pain. My pair stretch a little over a half size.
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