I have been waiting since last spring for a pair of these shoes. My normal shoe size is 9, but 8.5 in Keen. After reading reviews, I decided to try a size 8. They were way too tight, I could barely even get my foot in the shoe. I then got a pair of 8.5's. They are too big. There is too much space in the heel and they are too deep (as other reviewers said). They might be ok with socks but who wants to wear socks with them? I think they are too cute to return so I'm going to try to find some insoles.