These shoes are phenomenal. I got them the same size as my street shoe, and they fit perfectly. They don't necessarily heel-hook as well as I'd like, but that's also a product of my inexperience. These shoes are incredibly versatile though. Bouldering, ropes, inside, outside, cracks, arettes, whatever. It's a great all-around shoe. I'm only a 5.10/V3 climber, but I really like these. Great value and versatility.