I have Salomon trail running shoes and walking shoes that I love (for trail running and walking!) and had expected the same good experience from these boots. They are extremely stiff and uncomfortable out of the box. Fit is also very different from my other Salomons. Those run big---I have to go down almost a full size. These run closer to true size. These might be okay for standing around in the snow but you can't hike in them or walk any real distance. Also thought they would have the quick lace system and they did not, another bummer!