This jacket is excellent as a stand alone jacket or layering piece. I wear this under my TNF Free Thinker on really cold days and wear it alone around town. It is extremely light and pack-able. As others have said it is cut as a layering piece and the sizing is smaller than usual. I am 5'7" 170lbs and the large is almost a tailored fit. There is very slight pulling under the arms if I cross my arms all the way.
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