The description really does this shoe well. Very padded tounge, but not too padded that it is bulky. Comparing these to a pair of Sportiva Mantis would be like comparing very comfy wool sock to a thin pair of cycling socks. They aren't too aggressive, so don't expect much in the overhang department, however they have a wicked heel cup that keeps you locked in. The rubber around the heel is also quite great for heel hooks. I typically wear 45 boots, 44 1/2 street/running, 44 cycling shoe and 41-41 1/2 in most climbing shoes, which proves that you can't really base your climbing shoe size on your street shoe. Best bet is order several, and then try em on, send back the uncomfortable ones.