Size is right on in length and waist (large size, anyway). Nice color and quality. Yet again, however, these pants, like the Patagonia Powder Bowl Pant, fit like clown pants. Hilariously baggy in the legs (and I have big quads) and almost elephant bell-ish at the bottom. I just don't get it. I'm not looking for Arc Terycx climber weenie fit here at all. I like Flylow's slight baggy fit. But these are just ridiculous. So if you like looking like the clown posse at the park, then these are for you. If you want a yard or two less fabric flapping around your legs, look somewhere else.