I really like the spirits, though not the lightest draw on the market, they clip so well. I have used a few other quickdraws and I feel this is sort of the cadillac of draws. The notchless keylock is a really nice feature. I like the little rubber piece that holds the rope clipping biner, though having this piece on the outside seems like the little rubber would get torn off. Of course I'd rather tear the rubber than the draw, plus the rubber piece is easily replaceable. Overall its great I would recommend them to any sport climber. I recommend getting one of the 11cm versions to use when stick clipping and a couple of the 25 cm versions for anchors. I've used these on trad routes as well and they work well, but I think there's better draws for trad.