Good all around shoes. Climbed a 5.7 in them and they were ok. Again, not good at edging but either am I so...
Leather separated from sole, almost like it was cut. Five Ten is taking care of me. More of a heavier shoe (compared to a running shoe)but I am a flat footed clunker so I like the extra support. They were great on half dome (trail). Just enough cush and support and you can cinch them up pretty well to fit your foot. A bit spendy but if you lookin for a decent all around hiker/approach show that's a bit more beefy, check them out.