Don't get me wrong, these are great pants. I bought them mainly because they are full zip offs and shell only (no insulation). I've only used them for ski touring so far, and they are amazingly breathable, and what seemed to be wind-proof. I like the suspender option and the leg openings are plently big (maybe a little "bell-bottomy"). The construction is pretty rugged too, and I think that they will last me a good while. My only complaint is that they are very very long. If they offered short/regular/long instead of just the reg, that would be great. I'm about 5'7" 148 lbs and the small/reg fits well every where but the length...