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A Better Ski

  • Gender: Male
  • Familiarity: I've put it through the wringer

Contrary to what Wally says about this ski, I find the Patron to have excellent floatation. The Patron does have a little bit more swing weight than, say, an Armada JJ, which I have used extensively, but I find that the Patron can carve better on groomed and firm snow conditions. In fact, I find the Patron to handle any condition better than the JJ, or "similar counterparts" with rocker/camber profiles. The Patron is playful yet solid and confidence inspiring. It is a great ski. I have the Helldorado's, too, which will be more of a charging ski than the Patron, even though they have the same dimensions. The relatively light weight construction of the Patron is top notch, and I have ridden them hard, including bashing them through t North Chute last season.
A great one ski quiver that replaced my Armada JJ's.

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Jack - given the shape of the Patron, camber and rocker, would you size up or stick with forehead sizing. I'm a tele guy so trying to figure that into the equation

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I would size up, generally, and especially with a ski with lots of early rise, like the Patron. I am 6 ft, 160 lbs and I have the 193. I don't like skis that are shorter than I am. I tried the 185 and found it to have ample float, but I preferred the longer turn radius of the 193.
A few considerations:
West Coast, Rocky Mountains- go big. East Coast, smaller will probably be okay.
If you prefer to make more turns rather than straight lines, and you're not a real big person, the 185 would be a good choice. The 177 is for little girls, er, sorry...women or smaller guys.
If you're tele skiing, all bets are off. Just kidding, but I've thought about getting another pair of Patrons to put some Axl's on, and I'd get the 185 for tele turns and touring.
185 is a do all length, and should fit most people, but my final words are that skis that are taller than you are usually a good choice.
Happy turns.

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Jack - Thanks very much for your advice. I'm thinking 185" as I ski at Mary Jane in Colorado and short of Panorama bowl I need them to turn in all the bumps and trees. I wish I still had it but my charging days are behind me at 44 and I'm trying to stay away from my orthopedic surgeon who's had plenty of my business a few years back. Take care and have a great year. Pray for copious amounts of fluffy snow this year!