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I'm looking for advice for anyone who's willing to give it.
Here's my story. I am new to skiing but have boarded for 16 years. I had never been on ski's in my life prior to last week but always wanted to ski. I board mostly Utah and Colorodo. I am 5'-8" 145lbs. I rented Rossignol 168cm S3's a couple of days ago and had a blast. This is the best description of my current skill status. I skipped pizza, & by the end of day 2 I am able to keep my ski's parallel, carve big and small turns, ski flat, straight, dodge people etc. and be agressive on blue groomers and for the most part stay out of the back seat. I did a black groomer at the end of the day and felt comfortable but had to carve with aggressive speed checking to stay in control. I haven't been off the groomers or in the trees yet. I generally only board trees and off trails unless conditions are miserable and I want to do the same with skis but I will inevitably get plenty of groomer time. I loved the playfullness and surf feeling of the S3. I have a Lib Tech Travis Rice board that has a similar feel when not on edge. I don't mind the front end wandering around and am used to it. My friend, a very good skier, has S7's and uses them everywhere, resort, sidecountry, pow, heli trips etc and loves them. My question is this. Based on my current status is the S7 too much ski for me? what size should I get? I could turn the 168's effortlessly, what bindings, boots, or other ski's should I put on a short list? I would ski mostly Snowbird, Solitude, Vail, & Alta.

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It sounds like you will want to do mainly off-piste skiing, and for that I think the S7s will suit you well. I have S7s, they are my only pair of skis, and I adore them. I ski Telluride, Powderhorn, Alta, and Crested Butte and I wouldn't trade them for anything. In the 168cm length the S7's dimensions are as follows: 136/105/114. In the 178s they are 140/110/118. Even mounted forwards, you will find the 178s to be quite a lot of ski. Probably too much. My guess is that you would be fine on the 168s. You may need to "grow into them" a little, but based on how quickly you're learning, I think you'd find them a fun, stable ride, especially if you already like the Rossignol "flavor", so to speak.

As far as bindings go, get whatever you want. Your height and weight would not have you reaching the upper DIN settings that would require super burly bindings. With boots, it depends on how aggressively you want to ski, but most importantly get something that is VERY snug, but not painful. You will need to sit down and try on half a dozen pairs at least. This is where an experienced boot retailer comes in handy. A good retailer will also be able to adjust the cuff alignment for you, and that's really important. Boots are the place where spending too much and getting something that fits, is comfortable, and works for you is better than trying to save and getting something that doesn't fit and hurts. You'll end up spending even more money later.

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I bought a pair last season & they work great here in the Central Sierras. High rockered tip helps keep them on top in our heavier Powder. Love them on Groomers as well, especially on packed powder as long as it is edgeable these skis are awesome.

My research last season told me to go longer. I am 5'9" tall & weigh 165 lbs., 155 lbs. last season when I bought them. I have been skiing on approx. 175 CM length skis in the past. It was suggested overwhelmingly to get the 188 CM. And I am very glad I did. When skiing the groomed, I don't notice the extra length, & really like the extra float in the powder. I also notice they turn on a dime in our tight tree skiing.

So my suggestion would be the 178's for you, mounted at the '0' mark. I mounted mine at 1 CM forward of '0' due to my lighter weight at the time. Most heavier guys were saying 1 CM back from '0'. And now with my added weight I am considering moving them back.

Great skiing to you, You will love this ski.

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I am 5'7" tall (165lb) at an expert level and I bought the S7s 168 cm last season. I totally regret that decision as I felt very unstable on the groomers and not so on top on powder.
I learned that rocker skis need to be in between 15 ~20 cm over your regular ski size because they ski shorter. The reason? The twin tip and the rocker. Finally this season I bought the 178 cm and I feel I have great flotation on powder and good grip on groomers. My daughter Patty (slightly shorter than me) tried them and went to ski powder in between the trees with great confidence. She has not returned them to me until this date..., seriously!

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Are you a life long skier? As a snowboarder turned skier myself, these will work out. they are a little more advanced than I would choose to start out on. I would suggest looking into the Lib Tech NAS or k2 hellbent. Both these skis ride like snowboards both with the edging and turning and less like carving skis. They surf powder! And most of all are more forgiving on the learning curve. We have a saying at Crystal mountain "K2 Hellbent: Making awesome snowboarders, OK skiers"

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I'm 62 and ski the steep and deep every day. Been skiing since I was 15.
The rossi S7 is my current ski. It's the best ski I've ever used. You can fly in the deep powder with tremendous stability. The ski is super responsive because you are primarily skiing on a very short running surface which is the distance from the upcurve at the tip to the upcurve near the tail. If you have ever skied on super short skis you know you turn them very fast. I use 188s which are just about my height.

The tip of the S7 seems perfect, for me it turns intuitively. I don't even think about it and goes exactly where I want. I ski crud and powd daily and the ski is reasonable on hardpack and icy stuff where most any ski is not quite good enough.

The tail is the ski's most fantastic quality. Being strongly upturned provides super controlled smearing. It is the easiest, least catchy (during a turn), tail I ever skied. It never throws you. You can dump speed like non other.
If you are skiing a narrow steep shoot where you have to dump speed but there is nowhere to turn the ski still dumps speed while going straight and the tail and tip don't catch and throw you.

I've heard of quite a few people who don't like the ski but I can't understand why. I think they have a psychological hang up on it. Give it some time and you will never find a better more versatile expert ski.
There is one drawback which is well worth the positives and that is the tail catches occasionally on the other tail when skating or working on long hard uphill climbs. Mainly due to being tired while climbing or skating. If you are in super shape and young and aggressive you may prefer the Super 7 since it has a metal plate in it and gives it a slightly heavier but more stable performance. Being older and I ski with more turns rather than flat out speed I much prefer the S7 as a lighter easier turning ski.